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Mike from Delta writes:
Did the hike on Sept. 29, 2020. Tough but worthwhile for the views. We found a digital camera that was left ¾ of the way up the trail. Probably was left there in last day or two as none of people on the trail we checked with claimed it. Send me a message if you see this message and think it's yours - [email protected]
Posted: September 29, 2020 10:01:17 PM PST
Liat from Vancouver writes:
I did this hike September 2, and roundtrip took me 6 hours ( including the break at the top). I didn't really take any breaks going up. The logging gravel trail is pretty long. About and hour inclining. Then you go through the forest and it's all shaded and today was a sunny day but inside the forest the tree roots were very slippery with muddy ground. Definitley wear hiking boots with a strong grith grip.
The trail in my opinion could be maintained and marked a little better but there are lots of markers on rocks - painted in orange. Some parts though.. can still get confusing.
The boulder at the top was a scramble. It's definitely technical and much harder in my opinion to go down. I slipped a few times myself.
Go slow. Look down carefully so you step on solid and dry rocks. The view was beautiful but one part was a bit foggy.
You will for sure want to bring 2-3 litres of water, first aid kit and a bear bell. A light sweater too on a chilly day. I wouldn't recommend doing this hike on a rainy/ foggy Day.
Going down is very steep and hard on the knees.
Also one last thing is to go early. I got there at 8:30 am and the parking lot up top by the trail head was already full. There are only like 15 spots and it is PAID PARKING $16
I parked about 500 m down by the school for free and there were 6 spots . 3 were empty. Basically don't arrive after 8:30 am.
Enjoy!!
Posted: September 2, 2019 05:32:47 PM PST
Nicola from Vancouver writes:
Did this treat of a hike on August 5th. It was excellent! The beginning third along the forest service road is pretty boring (womp womp), but the middle section through the trees is satisfyingly steep, and scampering up the alpine rock area is super fun. No snow to be seen in August.
I would think anyone who can comfortably do Norvan Falls, Elfin Lakes or the Grouse Grind could do this no problem. It is a little longer and remote, so a few thoughts:
- bring at least 3L of water per person or you will get super thirsty
- be prepared to encounter wildlife, since there are bears in the area, and if you're allergic to bees definitely bring your epipen since the alpine flowers are starting to bloom and the bees are bumpin'
- leave your trip plan with someone at home, bring a headlamp, and make sure your phone is charged
- it's pretty easy to get off-route in the rocks towards the top, so go slow and check to make sure you're following the painted orange dots on the rocks
- wear hiking boots or shoes with a rubber sole, since the rocks are a great pebbly granite and it's much easier to romp around in boots versus running shoes
- my personal pro tip is to bring a spare shirt, a change of shoes and another water bottle filled with ice to keep in the car for the end of the hike
Another note is that there is a parking lot, but it seems to fill up very very quickly. You can park a block or two below, just make sure it isn't in the permit-only areas or your car will get towed.
I didn't do the scramble at the top, but I would caution people that it's a lot easier to get up something than to get back down, so unless you feel very confident in your climbing skills, the views from the top are more than adequate.
Posted: August 6, 2019 04:50:03 PM PST
Ali Ammad from Surrey writes:
This was definitely harder than Mount Brunswick. The trail after Harvey Creek becomes very narrow and really slows you down. The views are amazing once you are above the treeline. And the views are even better once you are at the ridge.
Posted: July 29, 2019 08:50:11 AM PST
Peter from Vancouver writes:
Went up Saturday, May 18. Snow starts about 15 minutes before getting out of the trees.
Trail mostly hidden once you're on the snow, but there are some tracks. Made it from the parking lot to the ridge in 3 hours. Down in 1:45. Travelling light - shorts, trail shoes. Ran some of the down. Beautiful day.
Posted: May 21, 2019 09:00:59 AM PST
Hike from Vancouver writes:
First time hiking to West Lion today 12 May. Brilliant hike for the first few hours, very similar surroundings to Tunnel Bluffs. Lots of nice features and changing trail to keep it interesting. So much snow still for the last few KM, bring poles and spikes. We got to the ridge and slid back down in 7 hours. A bit treacherous to go all the way to the Lion
Posted: May 12, 2019 07:53:06 PM PST
PK from Vancouver writes:
Planning to do this hike on Feb 23rd, is it snowy!?
Posted: February 17, 2019 09:12:08 AM PST
Austen from Vancouver writes:
Hiked to the summit today, took me 7 hours round trip. Trail was in great shape all the way up, with the last scramble up the boulder field being quite icy. Definitely do-able at this point by walking off the path, but be wary of some of the ice up near the top.
Posted: November 12, 2018 07:00:56 PM PST
Sarah from Burnaby writes:
Did this hike in a group of seven on Saturday, October 13th. Was a beautiful day, perfect temperature and not a cloud in the sky, no snow. The trail was pretty easy to follow and we made it to the top plateau (before the difficult scramble up the last rocky peak) in about 4 hours, with a reasonable pace but stopping for breaks as the abilities of each group member varied. Half of our group chose not to make the last scramble to the very top (including myself). After speaking with the half that summited, the scramble was quite technical and exposed. There were several obviously dangerous sections for inexperienced mountaineers. I would say even in ideal conditions you should be comfortable with advanced/technical scrambling/climbing to attempt the last part. Our entire group made it back in probably ~9.5 hours, but I suspect without the last scramble it would have been closer to 7 hours.
Posted: October 15, 2018 08:24:46 AM PST
TW from Vancouver writes:
Free parking is available before May or after October further along Sunset Drive.
Marked this as ~1285m and 14km (not to the actual summit of West Lion but the sub-peak before that).
Completed 13th October 2018 after a week of dry weather and the trail was fine. Some hard, frozen ground near the sub-peak but not slippery.
Posted: October 14, 2018 04:47:53 PM PST
Michel from Vancouver writes:
Hiked on Monday, October 8. Misty, but otherwise totally clear.
Posted: October 9, 2018 08:55:55 PM PST
Megan from Vancouver writes:
I was planning on doing this hike in early October. Does anyone know what the trail conditions are like within the last couple of weeks?
Thanks!
Posted: October 5, 2018 07:40:12 PM PST
MelissaP from Vancouver writes:
Just completed this hike today. Two athletic girls took approximately 6 hours round trip (we went to where the ropes are near the summit). Attempted to free climb a little bit, but it is certainly not safe for the recreational hiker to summit the remainder of the lions. Will also note that the gate is no longer yellow, but black. Additionally, the trailhead is off of Sunset Drive in Lions bay which wasn't clear from many of the hiking sites we viewed. The ticketing machine isn't great to pay for parking but very tempermental - either download the app when you arrive or bring a decent amount of change! I would highly recommend this hike, the views are incredible!
Posted: August 27, 2018 09:11:54 PM PST
DK from Vancouver writes:
Completed this hike on August 12th. The parking lot was full when I arrived so I had to park about one km away. The majority of the hike had dense fog - I couldn't see 20 feet ahead of me. Was unable to see any views at the top but still enjoyed the hike. I had no trouble with bugs but it was a little cooler temperature wise. This hike is definitely not for beginners - if you try it, you will hurt day 2.
Posted: August 13, 2018 11:39:12 AM PST
Cody from Vancouver writes:
We saw a black bear cub on the hike. It was at the top, but before the final climb up to West Lion. We were having lunch and it poked it's head around a corner, about 15 feet away, and watched us for a minute or so. When we slowly walked away, initially speaking calmly, then eventually singing and hitting a stick on the ground we noticed the bear leave.
We kept hiking to the West Lion and it was a lovely day, but I thought I'd better let other hikers know there may be a bear in the area still.
Posted: August 7, 2018 09:30:40 AM PST
Dominic from North Vancouver writes:
Did the hike August 4th. Parking lot full at the start of the trail so parked further back down the road. Watch for the No Parking and Resident Parking signs when you park. Five of us did the hike in good time at a good pace (3 hours up). One small snow patch of about 60m to cross. Great conditions and view from the top. Twenty mins for a snack and photo's before the 3 hour hike back down. Probably harder coming down than going up (fatigue and easier to slip on loose dirt, gravel etc.) Slight breeze at the top. Bring lots of water, good hiking/trail shoes/boots, and count on 6 to 8 hours for the round trip. Great views and quite a few other hikers including some who had come via the Howe Sound Crest Trail.
Posted: August 5, 2018 01:54:58 PM PST
Sveta from Vancouver writes:
Yesterday I have been on the lions binkert trail and found the sunglasses. Please write your contact information over here if you lost them.
Posted: July 24, 2018 11:11:10 PM PST
Louise devlin from Ireland writes:
Did this hike on 4th july and didn't need spikes etc, just decent boots. Was surprised to find its now paid parking ($12/day) as it wasn't the case last year when I was here. After the forest section (>1000m elevation) there is slushy snow but it can be navigated fairly easily and only lasts until the walk in section approaching the scramble to west lion. Don't be intimadated by the last section to get to the peak, it looks worse than it is but it can be quite hard to see the trail markers in this section so i'd say go slowly and enjoy the feeling of being epic at the top. This hike should be on your vancouver bucket list if its not already
Posted: July 7, 2018 10:15:01 AM PST
Susan from East Van writes:
We hiked the trail on June 16th and did not hit snow until we reached the very last portion of the forested trail. We were able to easily hike up to the first lookout without crampons, however past the first lookout there was 1 to 2 m of snow up to the top and poles/crampons would probably be necessary to summit. We ran out of time and did not summit. The snow is fairly soft at the top , you can get your heels in. If the warm weather continues I predict snow should be gone in a month.
Posted: June 18, 2018 11:18:24 AM PST
Diego from Vancouver writes:
Went to the hike yesterday May 12 with my wife and friends and were not able to go past 5 KM. My wife and I had crampons but our friends didn't, so we decided that we couldn't go any higher than that or it would have not been safe.
I suggest if you want to try it to bring hiking sticks and crampons/snowshoes. It is very packed with snow on the last 3 km, we were just unprepared for that much snow.
I believe that it won't be doable without snow gears at least until July or August.
That said, the hike up to there was still challenging and fun!
Posted: May 13, 2018 10:21:41 AM PST
Tam from Vancouver writes:
Great trail.Coming from Cypress is longer, but far more interesting. Turning it into a loop can be really fun
BEWARE
If you're doing the scramble, there are three big dangers.
1) The rope has frequently freyed, and I have seen people climbing down it when it was totally ripped.
2) Someone has painted pink blotches up a harder route of the west face, when the real route is on the South West Face (facing Vancouver). The line is tricky and on the right hand side. Follow cairns, trails and green blothes to the right. Once you go over a akward rightward step it becomes much easier, and much more obvious.
3) Rockfall (human and natural) is very common. Bring helmets if you intend to go to the top.
Posted: February 15, 2018 10:58:21 AM PST
Anonymous from Coquitlam writes:
Try to go on a completely clear day, it’s a little frustrating if the view is foggy or clouded over. Solid hike, took us nine to ten hours though. I suppose we aren’t that fit but all of us exercise frequently enough~ *! Be cautious midway through the forest. We came across a swarm of VERY angry bees and ended up with many stings. Always bring Benadryl and ibuprofen on your hikes, you never know. We were in pain but pushed through it, and luckily no allergic reactions.
The last part (the actual scramble up the west lion) is apparently super sketchy and it looked that way up close. Do not attempt if you are inexperienced, even some rock climbers were saying they felt unsafe.
Posted: September 11, 2017 09:15:19 AM PST
Omran Safi from VANCOUVER writes:
Did this hike on Aug 19. Very fun and challenging hike to do with friends. If you plan on doing the final scramble for the summit make sure you are confident in your abilities. It is classified as a class three for good reason. You are very exposed going around the side and even when you are going straight up. Don't settle for alright holds, take the time to try several until you find a good hold. Going back down the summit is harder than going up. You have to be even more careful and really make sure you have good hand and foot holds. Great hike and great fun but make sure you understand you abilities.
Posted: August 21, 2017 12:24:17 AM PST
David from Vancouver writes:
Loved the hike as it was on my bucketlist of peaks to scale.
Enjoyment was dampened by blackflies. Even with bug spray(s), the insects were relentless. Can't overstate it enough; be prepared. Might be worthwhile to get a insect-proof net-type hat even.
A couple (short) parts of the hike requiring walking over snow/ice, however easily managed in hiking boots. Shouldn't stop you from doing the hike.
Note: distant views still obscured slightly by the forest fire smoke in the Valley.
Posted: August 9, 2017 02:29:09 PM PST
Rico Micallef from Portland, OR writes:
WOW, having grown up in Vancouver I was thrilled to climb the West Lion today. I brought an ice ax and crampons but neither were necessary, I am glad I had my mountaineering boots as there is lots of snow at the top with some relatively steep slopes. Fantastic summit! The rope down to the ledge is pretty worn, it should be replaced. Black flies were AWFUL, you could not stop with out them being all over you. Nonetheless a GREAT day!
Posted: July 31, 2017 09:20:24 PM PST
John from Victoria writes:
Trail is in great shape and the snow was still compact. Spikes / crampons would have made it easier but it was fine without (we wore boots though). Beautiful day! If you lost a Nikon camera lens cap, I left it at the trailhead for you. The tough parts: I've never hiked with so many bugs......couldn't stop for a water break or bar without 50 bugs in my face! While we didn't do the final summit, I did go down the rope to the ledge. That rope is badly in need of changing as the sheath is completely worn through and the core is getting pretty ratty too. It would be pretty dodgy getting up without this rope if it broke.
Posted: July 24, 2017 10:37:05 PM PST
Mike from Vancouver writes:
Hiked on July 15th 2017, we made it right to the top! There is still a lot of snow, which we encountered about 2.5 hours in, We saw people who made it in just runners but I would advise boots and spikes for now. Also be careful for the melting snow can give way suddenly. Spectacular views, would definitely do again!
Posted: July 16, 2017 07:02:40 PM PST
Alice from Surrey writes:
Hey all, i lost my ice axe on the West lions trail today. It was a petzl glacier. If anyone finds it can you send me a message at [email protected]? I'll buy you a drink and shower you with gratitude.
Posted: July 15, 2017 06:46:24 PM PST
Michelle devlin from Ireland writes:
Hiked this with my sister on Sunday 25th June. The first 2 hours were great until ~1000m but after this it became impassable due to ice and snow. We continued on to the ridge ~1200m cutting steps in the snow but I really don't recommend doing that! Couldn't make it to the top.
Posted: June 26, 2017 06:14:24 PM PST
Lau from Abbotsford writes:
I hiked this trail on May 22 2017. I would recommend waiting a few more weeks before attempting. It's a gorgeous hike and really well marked. We were able to get up to a clearing and get a good view, however going forwards we would have definitely needed more snow gear.
Posted: May 22, 2017 03:55:43 PM PST
Megan from Vancouver writes:
Anyone know what the conditions are like in terms of snow? I'm looking to hike this next week.
Posted: May 12, 2017 06:39:57 PM PST
grace from Vancouver writes:
wow. this has to be the BEST hike I have ever gone on. If you are slow or average speed, ARRIVE EARLY. My mom and I got their at 7:00am. GOOD NEWS the parking situation has been fixed. the sign about 'parking only with permit/ residents" have been taken down, so there are12-16 (didnt count exactly) parking spaces. The first part of the trail is quite flat (its a logging road), and its filled with small rocks. (Its hell going down the the logging road, the hill is at an incline where it has a lot of pressure on your knees if you walk, and if you decide to jog down the hill, gravity will make it hard to stop and slow down). The signs were really weathered at some intersections going up, but just remember ALWAYS GO RIGHT AT ALL THE INTERSECTIONS. After the initial logging road, it starts getting really steep. Sometimes you need to go on all fours to climb over rocks and duck under really low fallen logs (theres a lot of logs to crawl under). make sure to follow the orange trail ribbons carefully. We went off trail at an rock slide part, and it was very dangerous, since we were just scrambling up rocks at a really steep incline. BE SUPER CAREFUL GOING DOWN. the incline is super steep, and make sure every step is solid, and make sure you don't slip, since one slip can cause you to tumble down an entire section. you will be needing both your hands and feet for some of the tricky manouevers (as I said, ducking underneath fallen logs is a common scene). Overall, this was an amazing hike and the views up top were absolutely breathtaking. I would recommend it to all vancouverites. The lions were mountains i grew up admiring, and its crazy to finally be able to see them up close. I would definately recommend you to go now in September, theres no snow at all and the weathers not too hot. However, the days are getting shorter, so make sure you come back before dusk; planning your time wel is crucial. and one last note: the difficult rating is no joke. The trail is really steep, and getting down is often trickier than going up, and also, the trail is not as well mantained as many other trails, like saint marks summit, garibaldi lake, etc etc. ENJOY!
Posted: September 14, 2016 11:57:55 PM PST
Cassy from vancouver writes:
we started this hike from cypress bowl since another friend who had done it from lions bay suggested this route was more scenic and easy on the knees.
we hiked to st marks summit, unnecessary mountains and finally the lions! This hikes is almost twice the distance from lions bay. A lot of elevation gain and loss since you have to travel over several mountains. Our way back wasn't very redeeming either, cause you have summit all the mountains all over again.
The final scrambling to the sub summit isn't very hard or long either. I am in average shape and I didn't find it too hard myself. Take your time towards the end and make sure you place your foot in the right place-Good footing is important!
I carried 2L of water and usually dont drink alot. However, this time I ran out of water half way which didn't make anything easier! Every single bone in my body was and still is screaming out in pain.
On a brighter note, this route is deff more scenic!! Several view points and you'll be taken aback every single time. The sub summit is where we called it a day. It is truly spectacular to have lions bay in front of you and vancouver on the back. Highly recommend this hike once you've done a few intermediate ones. This hike from cypress makes for a very long grueling day, so make sure youre prepared before hand.
Posted: August 28, 2016 12:14:18 AM PST
Pinkcoffee from Vancouver writes:
I did this hike earlier this week as my first difficult rated hike. I thoroughly enjoyed the lions and it was quite a challenge. I was with an experienced hiker who was there to be my cheerleader. I am not in the best of shape but if I take my time, I eventually get to the top. I was terrified from other's reviews but decided to give it a go anyways.
It was a really rewarding experience seeing the lions up close and can't wait to do my next hike.
Posted: August 22, 2016 08:38:19 PM PST
Tom from Lions Bay writes:
Went up yesterday with a friend of mine; It was my fourth trip but on the two previous ones there were clouds at the top and my first attempt in 2012 was aborted as I was not ready. Yesterday was an incredibly beautiful day! No clouds! What a view!
I was happy to see so many happy hikers going up; but if you go, please don't go alone!. This is not a provincial park with nice paths! We saw a young lady going up on her own and also a very fit guy who went up running, then went for more running westwards and back, and was still running on the way down! I was thinking...should not this guy be in Rio?!
There was even a couple with a beautiful dog that was an expert rock scrambler!; I have seen on previous trips hikers carry their dog back so dogs are really not recommended for this hike unless they are large and healthy. They would also need water which their owners would have to carry!
Most hikers keep the mountain clean but I still had to pick up and take down plastic wrappers and a president's choice apple snack foil lid left behind!
Please keep this place as you find it.. Also please don't toss any biodegradable food away; take things like banana peels back with you as they can attract bears to the path which is not what you would want.
When the temperature is forecast to be in the high 20's to 30's in Vancouver, the hike in the morning is at high teens and pleasant due to its west exposure and proximity to the Howe sound fjord; Just get there early; we were there at 8:00 and the parking sports were full so had to go back a couple of blocks. We still used up 7 litters of sports drinks and ate lots of Clif bars. Don't go on this hike with just water and regular food; Google a recipe for a sports drink and make your own or get some prepared one. As for Clif bars they are great! I get a box whenever Costco has a sale. But (if you have time) you could also create your own mix of nuts, dried fruit such as raisins and seeds such as sunflower seeds.
Even though I have been up there before (last time was in 2014), we still managed to lose our trail a couple of times on the way back. If that happens to you, don't panic. Get back until you find the orange ribbons and look carefully around you. The path should be easy to find.
Posted: August 21, 2016 03:52:56 PM PST
Tom from Vancouver writes:
Incredible hike (Aug 13 2016) the only thing left out in the description is the difficulty with actually climbing the west 'ear' portion. It's a monster and very intimidating from the base, as you get to the top you need to descend vertically about 12ft down a blue rope with knots in it for grip (and obviously come back up it), if you can't do a chin-up, this will be a deal breaker. After descending down the rope the trail disappears, and everyone takes a different approach to 'scrambling' over the rocks to get to the top. But be aware, this is not lightly climbing over rocks, it's technical and most of it is almost vertical, one wrong step and you are a goner. I followed a group up who had done it before, most people try to follow patterns of trees since you can grab onto the roots and pull yourself up. It seems that the few people who attempted it went along the right side of the ear, gradually climbing up higher. It's not overly difficult, just take your time, make sure your hands have a grip hold and place your feet carefully. I'm not a climber but easily managed it, just don't look down haha.
One more tip, everyone in our group each packed 3 Liters of water and ran out half way down. Make sure you bring tons of water, if it's sunny out most of the face is exposed and it got quite hot.
Posted: August 13, 2016 08:58:48 PM PST
mila from vancouver writes:
We did this hike on August 7th 2016. Mosquitoes are still around, but the situation has certainly improved. We were bathed in bug spray, though, and re-aplied it twice.
There were a lot more fallen trees at the "deadly switchbacks" forest section (as we call it) than the last time we did this hike. The trail marks could be improved there, hence the 4 stars.
About the level of difficulty: Do not take this hike for granted. Going up: The toughest for me (more mentally than physically) is getting to the end of the "deadly switchbacks" knowing I still have to scramble up the West Lions. I just have to talk myself into not giving up - and it is exactly this mental aspect of the hike that makes me come back to it. Going down: This descent is actually the reason why I consider the Lions one of the toughest hikes in the region. It's around 3 hours of impact on ankles, knees and hips. If you're not fit, or if you have weak knees like I do, I suggest you really prepare yourself for this.
Let me add some words of encouragement here, just so my post is not only about negatives: What an amazing feeling to look at the Lions from Vancouver and say "I've been there"! I failed the first time I tried, but I trained and practiced in other hikes, and finally got it... so yeah, it's no jokes, but you can do it! End of encouragement : )
(PS.: Why, oh WHY, do people hike listening to (usually crappy) loud music??? Please keep your tunes to yourself. We go off to mountains for some peace and quiet. If you're afraid of bears, just talk or shout a bear call once in a while.)
Posted: August 8, 2016 10:03:29 PM PST
David from Burnaby writes:
Did this hike yesterday (June 26th), It is a very fun and technical trail after the initial walk up the wide path. There were lots of viewpoints along the route, though we couldn't ever stay still for too long since we were constantly being swarmed by biting flies and mosquitos. I would be giving this trail a 5 star rating if I wasn't currently dealing with 30+ mosquito and fly bites.
The trail took us about 7 hours, though the difficult rating on this website isn't a joke. I would personally consider this trail more difficult than hiking the Black Tusk in one day (due to the steep technical portion of this route compared to the technically easy Black Tusk trail), and more difficult than the Hanes Valley Trail (due to having to descend the steep portions on the way back instead of just taking the gondola/Skyride down the mountain).
Posted: July 27, 2016 03:57:13 PM PST
John from Vancouver writes:
View is amazing but that's it. Extremely difficult hike. My friends and I can do the Grind and Chief no problem, but this is on another level. We thought we could tackle this no problem, but could barely walk at the end. The extra 10 minutes walk to your car at the end doesn't help either. I would recommend this for pro hikers only.
Posted: July 25, 2016 01:23:41 AM PST
Heather from Vancouver writes:
There was almost no snow, and the view was absolutely amazing! We started at 9AM and finished by 4:30PM with at least 30 minutes at the top.
It's a decently challenging trail, my hiking boots were helpful but my friend did it in sneakers and he was alright.
The descent was steep and hard on the knees, but the view at the top is 100% worth it.
Posted: July 18, 2016 01:47:07 PM PST
Manjit from Surrey writes:
Hiked on July 2nd, 2016 I had left comments last year about missing the right to Harvey Creek. It is well marked now and I did finish my hike up to the Lions.
Great Hike for July, could be better on a clear day with better view and less snow.
Thanks to the team which maintains the trail, very clearly marked all the way.
Posted: July 4, 2016 01:58:59 AM PST
Louis-Philippe from Mascouche writes:
Did this hike earlier on today.
Managed to get almost to the 1500m ridge.
Lots of snow after getting past the 1200m or so mark.
Crampons, while not a strict necessity, would clearly help as the snow is really slippery even with good hiking boots due to the steepness of the slope.
Hiking poles are a must if you have no crampons.
Views were spectacular, but only after 2PM when the sun managed to clear the morning fog.
The descent is brutal and even more dangerous than the ascent.
Highly recommended due to proximity to Vancouver.
Posted: June 30, 2016 11:16:51 PM PST
Kristen from Burnaby writes:
The Lions is a challenging, technical hike, but the views are absolutely worth the work.
Due to the snow and time constraints, we only went to the base of the sub summit. We probably could have continued without crampons, though.
Main advice to others: #1 invest in poles. We fashioned some out of sticks and they were a godsend. #2 wear gortex hiking boots. Our feet were soaked after trudging through the snow. Extra socks saved the day, but our feet were still quite damp.
Posted: June 27, 2016 01:12:52 PM PST
Alex from Vancouver writes:
On June 21, 2016 there was still lots of snow. It was also really foggy, and due to the snow and the fog I only made it about 3/4 of the way up. I also did the hike in May 2015, and then too I had to turn back before I got to the top due to the copious amounts of snow.
If you want to make it all the way to the top, wait a little longer and choose a day with no fog. If you just want a fun hike this month and not necessarily to go all the way to the top, choose any day, just expect that you may have to turn back before getting to the top!
Posted: June 21, 2016 05:03:04 PM PST
Jim from New Caledonia writes:
June 2nd
Round trip 3h40 (snow and many photos stops)
Lot of snow at the top, slows me a lot cause i had only my trail running shoes and no snow equipment
I think it s around 3h during summer time (for trail runners, not walkers of course)
I remove stars cause the first third is really not interesting
Looks like a "highway"...
From the middle, it starts to be interesting with nice single track
NO problem for orientation,
Hard to run in every section...
Nice training trail
Enjoy
( i run in a very minimalistic way, no need water, you can find some everywhere, just'my shoes and go... As it s a quite short trail, food is not needed neither)
(Please note that this last comment is only for Trail runners competitors, not for hikers)
Posted: June 3, 2016 12:26:28 PM PST
SC from Vancouver writes:
Hiked this on Saturday, Sept 26th. Was an overcast day so I plan on doing this hike again one day when the sun's out but we had nice periods where the clouds moved off so that we could enjoy the view. We started off at 8:30 am in the morning and finished by around 5pm with lots of resting time at two viewpoints.
The parking situation at the trailhead is really pathetic - there's only about 4-5 parking spots for visitors of Lion's bay and about 10 spots for residents. The overflow parking is 1 km downhill away from the trailhead at Lion's Bay Primary School. It's a nice warm-up before you being the hike.
The first segment of the trail is pebbly gravel switchback - follow signs and markers (keep to the right at the various forks). There is one section that is relatively flat and winds through the forest, passing by several small waterfalls. After that, the trail becomes a bit more technical in that you have to watch your footing for roots and loose rock. Always keep a lookout for the markers as they lead you along the safest routes up. The first viewpoint is quite spectacular already, with the iconic view of the Lions on one side and a sprawling view of Howe Sound on the other side, and a view of other mountains and valleys. We stopped for lunch here and took many photos. After that, you can continue climbing up, through a spectacular boulder field. Here, there are markers and orange spray paint to help guide you along, however sometimes they are a bit hard to spot so take your time to aim for each marker - sometimes there are arrows to give you a general direction of where you should go. After the boulder field, you'll hike along the "spine" of the Lions to the very top of one of the humps. We saw people camping there. The view here of Howe Sound and the valleys and surrounding mountains is breathtaking and well worth the effort. There is an additional option to scale up to the tallest peak of the Lions and enjoy a 360 degree view of everything, however we didn't end up doing that as none of us have any experience rock climbing and it looked pretty steep - even so, we saw people doing it without any gear. The way down is pretty hard on the knees and hips - ouch we were sore afterwards. But all in all this hike is one of my favorites so far! I did the hike in running shoes without rolling anything but if you're afraid of that sort of thing would recommend proper hiking shoes as there are a lot of loose rocks and roots. It was an overcast day and I brought 2.5L of water which was just enough. On a hot day, would definitely recommend bringing more as there is a large segment where there isn't any shade and you'd be guzzling everything up for sure.
Posted: September 28, 2015 10:46:56 PM PST
Chloe from Vancouver writes:
Hiked up from Lions Bay Ave side today, September 27. Trail still dry and good hiking conditions. Beautiful views all day and clear skies. Could see mount baker from summit. Tough hike on the knees coming down.
Posted: September 27, 2015 10:07:41 PM PST
G from Vancouver writes:
Hiked this trail on September 5, 2015 and it is highly recommended. Beautiful scenery, challenging and well marked.
Personally I prefer accessing the Lions via Cypress as there are more viewing points (St. Marks, etc.), there is less elevation gain although it is slightly longer and the parking situation is a lot better. From Lions Bay there are only 5 spots! My group arrived at 7:45am and they were all gone so we had to park down the hill. Also, note that the gate is black, not yellow ;-)
Posted: September 10, 2015 05:48:55 PM PST
Renee from Vancouver writes:
A spectacular, physically challenging hike ( both up and down) - literally not for the faint of heart!
But It's worth every step not just for the incredible views but for the feeling of accomplishment.
If you need to challenge yourself physically and mentally - do this hike ( unless you're not fit - then forget it!)
Posted: August 24, 2015 07:19:11 AM PST
Steven from Ottawa writes:
This hike was amazing.... it is very tough and not for beginners but the top is unlike anything I've ever climbed before. It is unreal
Posted: August 22, 2015 10:10:42 PM PST
Graham from Squamish writes:
An absolutely beautiful and challenging hike.
It took myself 5.5 hours... which included a scramble up the west lions.
The view from atop the west lions is stunning.
However... there is an absolute bogus parking situation. For such a popluar hike there are only 5 parking spots available... for hikers, and approx 20 available for residents only!
"Lions Bay" residents have been getting special treatment ever since they built the highway for the olympics.
The parking situation needs to change for this trail. Anyone know how to make that happen?
Posted: August 17, 2015 11:58:24 AM PST
kl from victoria writes:
Hello! Headed to up the lions trail next week. I know the snow is gone, but have a filter and wondering if there is access to water right now (creeks, streams, large puddles, etc.)? Thanks!j
Posted: July 28, 2015 05:11:55 PM PST
David from Vancouver writes:
Hi everyone! Was thinking of doing hiking all the way to the summit, does anyone have any tips about what to expect on the summit hike? Also, what do you do when you encounter someone also on the way up/on their way down? Is the summit terrain treacherous enough that this will become a problem?
Thanks guys!
Posted: July 26, 2015 10:22:08 PM PST
Helen from Burnaby writes:
Just got back from the Lions, amazing hike!! I started at 7:45 am and reached the "notch" by 10:45. Was really hoping to get to the peak but I would definitely need some climbing gear... Markers on the way up are clear; not so much on the way down so I managed to got lost a couple times. All in all, the view is well worth the hike (even though it's still smoggy from the smoke).
Posted: July 18, 2015 03:13:25 PM PST
Manjit from Surrey writes:
Hi, Thanks for the useful info on all the trails, they are very helpful. I just tried doing the Lions today. Everything was going well until the (right to harvey creek junction) because we missed it....may be due to our inexperience or less visibility of the sign. We kept going ahead and the trail (18" - 24") wide almost went invisible in the bushes sometimes..we also met two other groups who were behind us and were in second thoughts about the right trail. We had gone too far..lost 2 hrs so decided to call it a day but on our way back, we did see the card board sign of right to harvey creek and vowed to come back and do the lions for sure. On our way down, we told as many first timers as we could about the small card board sign showing the right to Harvey creek. Hope they all had a good hike.
Posted: July 4, 2015 06:51:11 PM PST
Anton from Vladivostok writes:
Did it yesterday, it was amazing!
- There is no snow
- There is reception on top but there is no power socket :)
Posted: June 22, 2015 08:50:50 AM PST
James from Happy Valley - Goose Bay writes:
Hi! Two questions please:
-is the snow totally gone from the top? Last time I went up was in 2012 and there was some snow-pack just before the saddle, but it sounds like there's none at all from a previous comment?
-is their cell service there? Don't give me that look, I'm not snapping selfies, but I'm planning on doing the howe-sound crest trail and taking three days with it, but my buddy might get called into work on Monday for the afternoon so I wanted to be able to camp where we could get cell service and hike out in time; Koodo's coverage map clearly says you can get service on the lions, but I'm a little dubious of that.
Posted: June 21, 2015 08:21:42 PM PST
C from Vancouver writes:
Weather was great today. Got to the trail around 8:20am. Ended up parking a kilometre or so away from the trail head (it looked like there was free parking near the trail head, but it was residence parking only--the visitor parking was already filled up). The first quarter of the hike was a steady incline, second quarter almost flat at some points, then got into more intermediate type of hiking until the last quarter, then it started to get quite technical (used hands, had to make sure feet were properly positioned). There is a super steep part at the very end (maybe 100ft), but like most of the people that we passed by, we decided not to do it because it seemed extremely dangerous and more like rock climbing territory. The whole hike took my friend and me 5hr20min of moving time (little breaks, main break was at the top to eat). My friend and I are quite active, so cardio wise it was easy to maintain a brisk pace throughout the hike. The legs started getting quite sore on the way down however, along with some knee soreness from all the trek down the mountain. We've done quite a few hikes overlooking the Howe Sound, so we weren't blown away by the views at the top, but it was still a nice hike with nice views. I guess because the official season for this hike doesn't start until July, the trail was quite messy in some parts, but manageable. Lots of other people on the trail today (but we managed to get into a nice spot where we couldn't hear anyone but ourselves almost the whole way up/we passed quite a few people).
Posted: June 13, 2015 11:00:15 PM PST
Deninski from North Vancouver writes:
Made the epic hike today to test my nearly 65 yr. old body, and it went well. No snow and not many people. I walked my bike up the first part to save steps on the way down and was glad I did. Started from the parking lot at 7:50 AM and reached the top (saddle) at 11:20. Returned to car just before 2:50 PM after a nice cruise down. Used hiking poles on the way down to save my knees and legs and that seemed to do the trick. Happy to have done Vancouver's iconic hike again.
Posted: June 11, 2015 08:11:46 PM PST
Howard Lee from Burnaby writes:
Clear all the way up to the Summit of West Lions yet? Thanks!
Posted: June 2, 2015 04:56:08 PM PST
T.J. from Langley writes:
I went on the Lions Binkert on May 15th and here's some of the footage I took with a couple go pros! Sweet hike! Long and epic!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5WJqaCQ3jg
Posted: May 22, 2015 01:01:53 PM PST
Ben Barber from North Vancouver writes:
Made the hike yesterday. May 18th 2015.
For those wondering what the conditions are like. It is clear of snow until you reach Junction 5.
From that point up it is still filled with snow. I was able to get up to the top of the west lion just before the peak in trail runners. I opted out from reaching the summit as the rocks were a little wet, and getting up there can be dangerous. Boots would have been a better choice. But anyone in runners can make it up you just have to watch your footing.
Have at it! It is a beautiful hike and a great challenge for any avid hiker.
Posted: May 19, 2015 11:31:31 AM PST
Mike from vancouver writes:
Does anyone know what the conditions are like at the top in terms of snow?
I am thinking of hiking the HSCT this coming weekend and was wondering if there is much snow up there.
Posted: May 11, 2015 10:19:07 AM PST
Michael from Earth writes:
hey all, has anybody been up in the last week or month? am wondering what to expect?
Posted: May 5, 2015 10:45:13 AM PST
Samantha from Langley writes:
I went out yesterday March 16th 2015. There is a cougar warning in the area, not many people around. I went up only an hours way as I was alone.
Posted: April 17, 2015 04:55:03 PM PST
Jesse Perry from Beamsville writes:
I'm thinking about heading out tomorrow on the trail to see how far I can get. Has anyone been out recently?
Posted: March 26, 2015 06:48:18 PM PST
Chloe from Vancouver writes:
Hello. Does anyone know if the trails open yet and if so, what the conditions are like? Was thinking of hiking this on Saturday because the weather looks good and there is hardly any snow but would like to make sure it's all good before we attempt it!
Thanks :)
Posted: February 24, 2015 08:24:03 PM PST
Jake from Van writes:
Carson,
You'll be able you camp at the top, people do it all the time. I don't think your allowed fires but who is going to stop you at the top? Just dont make it big and if you have a propane stove it may be better because finding wood at the top is hard to come by. Find a camping spot anywhere at the top. By June the trail should be fully open unless there is another snow dump.
dont forget the beer,
Posted: February 17, 2015 12:29:41 PM PST
Carson from Vancouver writes:
Anyone know if my friend and I will be able to camp up on the Lions this year? We are planning to hike them around June 30th... We are thinking that the lack of snow this year should render the last part of the trip easier than past years at this time.
Also, for camping, is it allowed? And are there designated spots or do you just have to find a spot? Fires, assuming they are not allowed (but maybe they aren't).
Thanks!
Posted: February 11, 2015 10:53:13 PM PST
Mike from New Westminster writes:
27/28 September. Spent the night up on the second plateau! Sun set/rise were amazing. We hiked up to the second plateau from the trail head in 4.5 hours and ditched our packs there before we tackled the summit. Then returned to set up camp. Trail is in good shape. The recent rain meant lots of water access from little creeks and puddles (if you have a filter). We each went through 3 liters on the way up. On the way out it took us 3.5 hours. No bugs at all!
Posted: September 28, 2014 05:55:59 PM PST
123 from vancouver writes:
has anyone been up there Lately? is it buggy? and how long did it take you?
Posted: September 26, 2014 12:33:02 PM PST
Monika from Vancouver writes:
I'm planning to do this trail tomorrow and take advantage of the great weather! Just wondering if it is absolutely necessary for me to wear hiking boots or could this hike be done wearing trainers? I only ask this because this will be the second time I will be wearing my hiking boots and they still need to be broken into. Thanks!
Posted: September 20, 2014 10:02:11 AM PST
Francisco from Vancouver writes:
Hi anyone interested in doing this hike
next weekend or this sunday maybe? I need to hit the trail! I´m feeling lazy :(
Posted: September 19, 2014 11:57:53 PM PST
Jacob from Vancouver writes:
***had a hard time, sorry for the typo.
Posted: September 13, 2014 01:59:34 PM PST
Jacob from Vancouver writes:
Jarrett,
I brought my 10 months old German shepherd and she had with at the rock slide section headed to the plateau. You may need to assist your dog. It has been done before but if you dog is sheepish in any way I would advise against it unless your prepared to take the Extra time to carry her up a few sections. It can be done with patience and care. My dog is also very young but training her to become used to it.
Posted: September 13, 2014 01:57:27 PM PST
Jaret from Burnaby writes:
Was hoping to hike the Lions before the snow comes. Has anyone had their dog on the trail before? Or is it not a good idea to take dogs?
Posted: September 11, 2014 08:34:46 PM PST
k from bby writes:
Planning to do this hike this weenkend. Anyone can tell me if ther is any bear found on this trail? Anything need to be aware of?Thx!
Posted: September 10, 2014 09:01:13 PM PST
Jojo from Vancouver writes:
Thanks C! I guess I'm going boot shopping today
Posted: September 10, 2014 08:54:31 AM PST
C from Vancouver writes:
Jojo - given the terrain, especially if starting from Cypress via the Howe Sound Crest Trail, I'd definitely say hiking boots.
Posted: September 9, 2014 01:11:02 PM PST
Jojo from Vancouver writes:
Planning to do this hike on the weekend. Will I need proper hiking boots or can I get by with outdoor runners?
Posted: September 9, 2014 08:13:15 AM PST
Mike from Burnaby writes:
@Rena cell phone coverage is spotty on the trail. I remember it working for the first bit but then after rounding a corner, there was no signal for quite sometime. Spotty coverage near the top.
Posted: September 2, 2014 06:07:35 PM PST
Rena from Aldergrove writes:
Im wondering if there is any cell phone recption on the mountain, I cant find anyone to go with me during the week, so it would be nice to know if I had any trouble if I could use my phone for an emergency.
Posted: September 2, 2014 05:54:13 PM PST
Omar from NWT writes:
- Great hike, the panorama at the top is worth every second of the eight hours.
- Hiking up is tough, but coming down isn't much better, always take your time to avoid injury. (watch your ankles especially)
- Bring lots of water, I chugged 2L on the way up and was out of water on my way down... You can refill at the fall before Harvey Creek, tastes OK to me.
- Wild blueberries are delicious, just saying...
A few tips for those taking public transportation:
- You will likely be taking C12 from Horseshoe Bay to Lions Bay as your last transfer. Be aware that due to its low occupancy (usually around 4 passengers, C12 is a small van), the driver may NOT stop at the ferries terminal, especially when the terminal is occupied by larger buses like 257. You need to go stand at the head of the terminal (close to the water) and wave at the bus to stop as it passes.
- It's quite a distance from the C12 stop at Lions Bay to the beginning of the trail (yellow gate). Route: Get up to Bayview and continue left - reach Mountain Dr and continue left - reach Sunset Dr and continue left, yellow gate is at the end.
- The hike itself is eight hours round trip for average hikers, and the last C12 back to Horseshoe Bay leaves around 7:10pm. So the absolute latest you want to arrive at Lions Bay is 11am.
- Talk to the other hikers. It's not everyday you get to share the joy of hiking the most famous peak in Vancouver with fellow enthusiasts. And they might even give you a ride back to the bus stop. (Thanks Hilary and Martin!)
Posted: August 28, 2014 11:21:16 PM PST
ray from west vancouver writes:
How to get to the yellow gate?
Posted: August 16, 2014 10:32:22 PM PST
Michelle from Vancouver writes:
You should bring 3-4 litres of water! There is water along the trail at Harvey Creek, but you are warned that it might contain giardia. Also, I recommend wearing/bringing insect repellent - the mosquitoes are in great numbers and are relentless. Overall, the hike was a challenge, but well worth the spectacular views! (August 2014)
Posted: August 14, 2014 01:30:15 PM PST
Dave from Vancouver writes:
Just returned from this hike today.
For anybody attempting the summit, the rope that used to be in place to help you get down from the plateau to the ridge is no longer there, so you'll need to rely on hand/foot holds.
The way up to the summit from there was decently marked, but on the way down from the top I found that it was quite easy to take a wrong path. These other paths are worn, so can easily be misleading. In fact, I ended up climbing down half the summit on the wrong path. Were it not for some observant hikers watching and warning me from the plateau, I would've gotten into even more trouble - thank you guys if you happen to read this.
If you're prone to such mistakes as I am, look back and make mental notes on the way up so you don't make the same mistake!
Posted: August 10, 2014 07:33:01 PM PST
Pierre from Vancouver writes:
Just did it yesterday. Was absolutely fantastic. Definitely not for newbies, some steep and technical passes, but it's all worth it.
Took the 3 of us (40 something guys) 6 hours round trip.
Posted: August 8, 2014 07:15:35 PM PST
ms.D from Vancouver writes:
Definitely not for newbies! I did the hike last Monday and i was sore for 4 days after that but it's definitely worth every step.the view on top is amazing!!!!!!bring lots of water and snacks.
Posted: August 4, 2014 12:01:25 AM PST
Collin Smith from Calgary, Alberta writes:
Nice scramble!
Elevation: 1646m
Elevation Gain : 1420m
Distance: 17.06 km / 10.6 miles
Pictures from July 28th, 2014:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/+CollinSmith1/albums/6041534563360046689
Posted: July 29, 2014 11:53:47 AM PST
Geoff from Maple Ridge writes:
I'm new to this website - are the times posted for round trip or is this mountain 8 hours up?
Posted: July 23, 2014 06:00:19 PM PST
Nina from Vancouver writes:
HIked this on Friday. Trail is dry and there is no snow coverage. Finding the access to the final gully is a little tricky as the trail to Unnecessary is better marked. If you look for the trail markers near the two tiny patches of snow in the boulder field and start heading up to your left, you'll find it.
Posted: July 20, 2014 09:12:53 AM PST
Surinder from Vancouver writes:
Plan on hiking Lions next couple of weeks, any suggestions where we should start from, would like to go to top and return same day.
Posted: July 18, 2014 08:46:37 PM PST
Michael Yu from Richmond writes:
Does anyone know if there are water refill stations along the trail?
Posted: July 18, 2014 12:07:44 AM PST
Dave from North van writes:
Great hike. Most importantly no snow. Well a little bit to look at but nothing that you need to hike through. Cheers.
Posted: July 17, 2014 11:03:04 PM PST
Yuriy from New Westminster writes:
Went up on June 21st - all dry to the first viewpoint, and snow thereafter. Lots of snow. We (+ my dog) got to just before the area you have to rock climb. Walking through snow is tough (and you'll get wet), but it's doable. Great views!
Posted: July 2, 2014 01:55:28 PM PST
paleo from New West writes:
Me and my girlfriend did this on Tuesday (24th). It was cloudy and a little damp. Made it to the gully section in about 3 hours and tried to ascend the final scrambling section but it was too snowy. Snowy sections started in this area. Made for some amazing drinking water from the streams but since it was cloudy all around us and got no views we didn't try to going any higher because it was very slippery due to the sugary snow and would have added a lot of time.
Posted: June 26, 2014 06:09:45 AM PST
Vic from Van writes:
Would like to know the condition as well. Thinking of doing this at the end of June.
Posted: June 19, 2014 06:12:00 PM PST
Robyn from Vancouver writes:
Anyone know the current condition of this trail. Looking to hike up it on Sunday.
Posted: June 17, 2014 05:32:36 PM PST
Jacob from Vancouver writes:
Hiked up on May 1st. Snow starts about 15min past Harvey bridge, and gets pretty deep. I made it to the first view point and into a clearing for some photos and a view of Howe sound before returning. Would recommend snow shoes and an ice axe.
You might to able to make it to a view of Vancouver but it would be sketch and the snow is receding and is soft. Every step you sink in to about half way up your calf and sometimes your whole leg disappears.
Hiked the lions many times and wouldn't recommend succumbing to 'summit fever'
-Jacob
Posted: May 2, 2014 08:08:57 AM PST
John from vancouver writes:
Did this on Feb 13th and I will try to give my best description. Made it to the first viewpoint with no problems, ran into snow about half way, and after the bridge the snow got pretty deep. Going up to the first viewpoint, snow was about knee deep, although the trail seemed easier without snowshoes. The final ascent to join the Howe sound crest trail was very rough, even with snow shoes, the trail was no where to be found, and we tried our best to follow the orange markers but it was hard. Overall if you want to do this in winter I would say allow for 10+ hours to reach summit if you can, and bring snowshoes + crampons.
Posted: February 13, 2014 10:35:52 PM PST
Daniel from Vancouver writes:
Hi, just wondering what Binkert trail markings are like and how legible the trail is
Posted: February 11, 2014 09:48:56 PM PST
Simon woods from Duncan writes:
Hello,
I'm thinking of hiking the Lions soon here, but am not sure if the conditions are too snowy. Its the 2nd of Feb right now and snow fall on Grouse Mt and others has been terrible, so I feel like it might be possible. My only concern is that I will not be able to find/navigate the trail with snow on the ground. Thoughts? Also, if its a go, would snow shoes be necessary?
Thank you,
Si
Posted: February 2, 2014 11:09:18 PM PST
Peter Andrews from Vancouver writes:
Hey, Derek from Ontario! I hiked the Lions on the 10th, and it looked like you made it there too. I saw, what I'm assuming was your minivan with Ontario plates on it yesterday.
It looks like when we got to the snowy viewpoint and headed up to the peak that our trails diverged and we didn't see you. When we got back to the parking lot your van was gone, so I assume you made it back okay.
Hope you had a good hike!
For anyone else looking for a weather update. There was quite a bit of snow once you got past the viewpoint. I would recommend gaiters to keep the snow out of your shoes and boots. Snowshoes might help from falling through the crusty snow, and speed up the time spent navigating through the snow covered rocks, but on some of the steeper sections they might be a bit cumbersome.
It took my group 8.5 hours from the parking lot to the ridge below the peak (where it meets the HSCT) and back. The snow on the boulder field slowed up down quite a bit, and we ran out of daylight so we had to head back before getting to the peak.
Posted: November 9, 2013 11:24:12 AM PST
derek from oakville ontario writes:
Yeah if anyone know the current trail conditions I would like to hike the binkert trail tomorrow. thanks!
Posted: November 9, 2013 06:44:20 AM PST
Kelvin from Montreal writes:
Anyone know what the trail conditions are for this time of the year (early November). We were considering doing the Howe Sound Crest Trail from Cypress to Porteau Cove and are wondering how safe that would be. I understand the most sketchy part would be the traverse of the West Lion and through the ridge between both. Any advice would be appreciated.
Posted: November 7, 2013 05:42:48 PM PST
Tristan from Squamish writes:
Went up today starting at first light. Glorious views, no snow at any point. Went right to the top, but did not climb the Lion itself, no ropes and it looked real steep! Brilliant hike and the fall colours are firing right now... but my legs are finished, the steep descent seems endless!!
Posted: October 15, 2013 09:22:19 PM PST
Jeremy van den Driesen from New Westminster writes:
I climbed the West Lion yesterday (Oct 13) after a hiatus of 20 years. Always a climb to be approached with extreme caution as there are a couple of sections were you to fall your next stop will be Georgia and Granville.
There is an old rope on the higher of the two exposed sections, but I didn't use it as I am certain that it would not hold a fall. It just provides assurance, so climb well, climb safely.
It was a glorious day. Perfect weather for climbing. The rock was warm and dry and, most importantly, no bugs. What a blessing!
However, keep in mind that it gets dark under the trees soon after the sun sets. And though one can hike out on the old road in the dark sans flash-light, don't try this on the way down to Harvey Creek from the ridge.
On another issue, it was quite comforting to see the number of people who took one look at the obstacle and emphatically demurred. I think at my age(70 in Dec)and after eight summits it's time I too demurred. The long way down was brutal on my knees. To think I once did this in a four round trip and yesterday it took me 10.5 hrs. Yet, every minute was embraced,the sense of accomplishment,the camaraderie spirit with other climbers and sheer joy of being in the mountains on such a day was worth every knee hammering and adrenalin pumping moment.
Posted: October 14, 2013 11:44:48 PM PST
S from Vancouver writes:
wondering what conditions I can expect at this time in early October? Planning to go this weekend. thanks!
Posted: October 10, 2013 07:12:12 PM PST
Jules from Perth writes:
Hi, I'm wondering what conditions will be like around April? Is it possible to do this trail at that time of year?
Thanks
Posted: September 21, 2013 11:39:55 PM PST
Rose from North Vancouver writes:
As always fantastic hike yesterday with 2 friends. priceless viewpoints. No bugs, no mosquitoes this time coz it was foggy perfect to cool us down but did not fog our way. took us 8 hrs total, 4.5 going up and 3.5 going out with tons of breaks. we always enjoy our photo session.
Posted: September 10, 2013 07:59:49 AM PST
Occasionalba from Vancouver writes:
@Tom: Not sure if this is too late for you now. But if you're very fit and experienced, it's possible to hike the Lions starting from the Cypress Ski area (along the Howe Sound Crest trail) and end up in Lions Bay via the Binkert trail. This makes it a very, very long day even for a fit hiker and you will need two cars. I did it 3 years ago and it took us close to 10 hours hiking at a good pace. It was one of the best hikes I've done in the area, but don't attempt it if you're not absolutely sure you're going to have enough stamina and daylight.
Posted: September 8, 2013 10:15:37 PM PST
Rina from Vancouver writes:
Great hike, took around 7hrs to complete with a break at the 1st viewpoint and another at the top. I stupidly did not bring enough water (2L between my partner and I) and we were both slow and dehydrated on the way down. Otherwise I probably would have finished it in 6, 6.5hrs. Views are pretty nice.
Posted: September 4, 2013 10:19:58 AM PST
Nick from Coquitlam writes:
This is a spectacular hike.
I was able to complete this hike in 5 hours. I spent approximately 30 minutes at the top and had a few water breaks.
Highly recommend doing this hike with a few friends on a sunny day! Rain can make this hike a bit difficult and slippery.
Take caution on the way down, very easy to hurt yourself as your legs will be weak from the climb up.
Safe travels.
Posted: August 29, 2013 08:07:37 PM PST
Sarah from Vancouver writes:
There is another great option to reach the Lions instead of starting in Lion's bay. It's a few extra KMs round trip, but substantially less elevation gain (as you've driven up cypress) and spectacular views. The Howe Sound Crest Trail starting at Cypress Ski Area is about 10.5km each way and I would budget 4-4.5hrs each way. The hike takes you past St. Marks Summit and Unnecessary Mountain before you reach the lions. On a clear day you have panoramic views and great shots of the lions from the top of unnecessary.
Posted: August 29, 2013 10:34:47 AM PST
Tom from Vancouver writes:
Is there a way to make the Lions' hike so it is either a circle or it finishes at a different location than the start?
I don't mind a longer hike (10-12 hrs is ok) and added climb.
Cheers
Posted: August 25, 2013 10:50:02 PM PST
S K from Burnaby writes:
A few things I forgot to mention is that the descent is probably tougher than the ascent because of how steep it is. We went slowly to ensure that we didn't slip and tumble and break some bones. We got back to the parking lot at 4:20pm, so it was roughly an 8-hour hike, but we did spend an hour at the top plateau.
Posted: August 20, 2013 08:26:53 PM PST
S K from Burnaby writes:
Rina, the hike takes around 8 hours for 16 km because you have to climb through a lot of uneven terrain. There is scrambling involved and the descent after reaching the plateau before the Lions can be treacherous if you are not careful. If it was just a gradual incline all the way, then yes, 8 hours for 16 km is a lot.
Did the hike today with a friend who has not hiked in a year, but wanted something challenging right off the bat. We took a lot of water breaks. We got there at around 7:40am and there was nobody else parked in the visitor parking zone, but there were three cars in the resident parking zone. Get there early (before 8am) so that you are nearly guaranteed parking.
The trail itself is alright for the first hour. It gradually climbs a mountain and there is a metal plate on a tree along the way indicating the Lions being on the trail to the right and Brunswick Mountain to the left. After that it's quite a slog through the forest. You are mainly guided by trail markers and will have to go under or over fallen logs. Sometimes the trail makers can be confusing but just remember to keep climbing up.
After you have cleared most of the trees, you are at a plateau where you can see the backside of the Lions and the trail markers are not obvious. Look up and look to the right to see a very steep climb upwards.
Eventually you will reach another plateau that offers breathtaking views of the Lions and everything around you. We decided against climbing the actual West Lion because it looked incredibly sketchy and treacherous. I value my life too much to attempt something like that without equipment.
Posted: August 20, 2013 08:24:50 PM PST
IcemanRx from Vancouver writes:
Did the hike today. Gorgeous weather. Clear skies.
The hike will take 8 hours if you take a lot of breaks or take lots of photos along the way.
For experienced hikers,
Posted: August 20, 2013 07:36:44 PM PST
Rina from Vancouver writes:
Planning to hike this next week. How long has it taken other people? 8 hours seems like a very long time for 16k.
Posted: August 20, 2013 10:40:46 AM PST
Robbie \\\ from Vancouver writes:
WooHoo!
did this on monday!
I went right to the peak -- I have to do it again because it was completely foggy! haha oh well. My friend and I also hauled up a recording studio and recorded a song on top :)
I'll post the link for my fellow hikers to download the tune.
xo
R
PS yeah the climb to the peak is super sketchy, but i dunno... just do it!
Posted: August 14, 2013 09:35:33 PM PST
Kurt from Vancouver writes:
I love the Lions hike, partly because it is fairly difficult to get to the top where the views are (stupendous).
But we came across many, many first-timers on the trail and I was not at all sure people really knew what they were getting themselves into.
You want to still have energy left near the top, and remember it will be a slog going down.
You also should watch the weather - not the place to get caught if clouds roll in or it gets rainy.
As we left I thought it seemed likely someone would have some sort of mishap -- and sure enough, we heard later that evening that a hiker had fallen/broken ankle and had to be rescued by helicopter out.
Posted: August 12, 2013 11:53:41 AM PST
Karmel from s writes:
Hiked the Lions yesterday and LOVED it. It is a trek but well worth it. I agree with Samantha that the flies/bugs were pretty bad so bring lots of bug spray.
My friend and I opted to hike right to the top of the West Lion, and I am so glad I did. Yes the scramble was sketch, and I wouldn't suggest doing it if you aren't in very good physical condition, or scared of heights. (the drop below you is steep). If you want to attempt the scramble to the top the best advice I could give is to not look down, and to be confident going in. Thats some advice I got from 2 guys that had just come down from the peak and it helped me go through with it.
I would hike the Lions again in a flash, enjoyed it a lot.
Posted: August 6, 2013 09:05:33 PM PST
Samantha from Surrey writes:
Just did the hike today, August 5th 2013. Nice warm weather and amazing view from the top but be warned there are a lot of annoying black flies for most of the hike. They only cleared at the peak. Also this hike is definitely a slog. Not a ton of scenery along the way and very steep. Rough going up, rough going down. But the view only if you make it to the peaks is amazing. I would suggest this as a two day hike to not over exert yourself. I was with two pretty competent hikers who had to call it quits after the plateau because it was just too much continuous vertical. Definitely would do again because that view was amazing but my body felt pretty raw at the end doing that steep up and down in 7 hours.
Posted: August 5, 2013 08:17:55 PM PST
Barbara from Vancouver writes:
We hiked this yesterday (July 22nd), and since the comments posted by others were useful, thought we'd add what we noticed. This is specifically geared to people who read the "I hated this hike" comments, and don't know how to square that with the rave reviews from others.
First off, the views really are spectacular. I feel like everyone who lives\hikes in this area should get to see this on a sunny day, at some point in their lives. You should be mentally prepared to work for it though.
As described by others, the way up really is steep, and I would even say at times monotonous. I guess it depends on how you feel about steep logging trails covered in pointy rocks. Love them? Awesome. The hike starts and ends with a very generous portion. I like a bit more variety in view and terrain, so this part just felt like work.
Once you cross the bridge, things pick up. The vegetation smells amazing, and climbing over rock slides feels super tough. It's steep, without too many moments of flat walking to rest. But there are some great views to pause at, and seeing your friends as tiny figures in a gigantic landscape of boulders is neat.
When you come out of the forest, things get even better. The views start! There are patches of snow melting dramatically down rock slabs! I wouldn't want to do this on a wet day, but in the bright sun, clambering over rocks and navigating the running water was fun and interesting. And yes, the view is unbelievable. There are symmetrical mountain shapes framing expanses of ocean. Come on-- it's too perfect.
Let's talk about coming down. I know that there are people with giant quads and iron wills who don't mind this, but for me, the descent was pretty brutal. Those rock slides and boulder scrambles that were so fun to climb up seem designed to tease out latent knee problems. Again, this depends on what you like. If you enjoy concentrating hard on every step as you navigate tricky footing, the way down is almost 100 % exactly that. If you like sections where you can zone out on what your feet are doing, talk to your buddies, look at a squirrel, etc.-- coming down this mountain might upset you. It really doesn't let up. And there's nothing like an hour plus of logging road at the end of a day to really put a bow on tired feet and knees.
Trekking poles would be a good thing to bring. Lots and lots of bug spray. Lots of sunscreen. And unless you are dedicated to climbing up mountains for the sheer thrill of exercise and achievement, don't go on a foggy day. The view and the feeling of height and expanse was what made this worth it to me.
On our way down, we saw some people slogging up the logging road who looked a bit out of place. They asked nicely where the first view point was. If you're those people -- maybe don't do this hike. The views at the top are definitely not for free, and the ones along the way are probably not worth the logging road and the boulders.
Hope this helps with the decision making!
Posted: July 23, 2013 11:20:52 AM PST
Sarah B from Vancouver writes:
Did this on July 21st and had a wonderful time. Arrived at about 8am and we were able to park along Mountain Rd. Terrain at the beginning was fairly boring and steep but the fog was great to keep cool. Overall we had no problems finding our way as all major forks were well signed. The first steep, road part took us about a hard hour of uphill hiking, followed by half an hour of flat trail. The trail then became very steep and we were climbing for about 1 hour on trial that reminded me of the grouse grind. Final 45 minutes was on the exposed side heading up to the West Lion. Still a little bit of snow but nothing to crazy. Spectacular scenery.
The worst part for us was the bugs - we don't seem to have any bites today but they were really annoying in our ears and also fighting off the deer flies. Other wildlife included a chipmunk, snake and a Grouse or Ptarmigan. Great views at the top of Vancouver and Schelt.
Total time of the hike was just shy of 6 hours. About 3 hours to the top, half hour lunch break, and 2.5 on the way down.
Sore glutes today but great memories and pictures to remember the day.
Posted: July 23, 2013 08:38:46 AM PST
Dave from Vancouver writes:
Hiked this today. Originally planned to visit Mt Harvey but the sign seemed to be missing, and I missed the entrance.
There were only a handful of areas with snow nearing the top that had to be walked across, but it was quite shallow, and nothing much to worry about. Boots were never at risk of soaking through.
Overall, a nice hike.
Posted: July 22, 2013 04:49:53 AM PST
mike from van writes:
Hey folks, the Lions trail is closed at the intersection to th Mt Harvey trail. I just did that one instead and it was super beautiful.
be safe folks!
Posted: July 14, 2013 09:11:55 PM PST
Hoppper from Burnaby writes:
Hiked this trail on July 6. I'm not sure what trail Sara was on, but if you hike up past the first view point and flat area, the snow is still very deep. You can only see the tops of some of the trees. While you can hike up over the snow, I have to say, I had a heck of time at it. I was wearing hiking boots and it was still a super slippery climb up a steep slope. My boots were completely soaked. We were climbing up on the snow for over an hour.
I think this is my least favourite hike ever and I was sorely disappointed. It's a fantastic workout and has good elevation gain, but it is tedious and uninteresting. The first couple hours are on an old, rocky logging road. While it gets better after this, I still found it uninteresting. Unfortunately, we had a late start at 2pm and we had to turn back at the base of the West Lion. I'm sure the view from the top of the West Lion was better, but the view from base is nice, but not that impressive. You can achieve a similar view from St. Marks.
Generally going down is my favourite part. Not this time. The trail is steep enough that I couldn`t travel as fast as I like to and when we got back on the logging trail it was the same problem, steep and rocky enough that going faster than a slow jog puts you at a high risk for slipping.
Off the trail at 10pm. Never been so happy to get off a trail before.
Posted: July 7, 2013 11:38:31 AM PST
Sara K from Squamish writes:
Hiked the West Lion today. Snow starts at the tree line (view point) but it's not deep so runners should be adequate, especially if they're waterproof.
Posted: July 6, 2013 07:37:21 PM PST
Alex from Port Moody writes:
Hiked up to the Lions on July 1st. This trail offers undoubtedly some of the best views of all the hikes in Vancouver's vicinity. Snow didn't start until after we got out of the woods, which was quite nice. There is still a lot of snow up near the peaks though, so good waterproof hiking shoes are a must. Also, lots of streams with cold, refreshing water on the way, so no need to pack more than 1-2 bottles of water (first 2-3k are quite dry). Descent was a bit trickier than ascent, because you have to stay focused at all times to avoid stepping on wobbly/slippery stones. Fantastic hike and well maintained trail overall!
Posted: July 4, 2013 10:01:20 AM PST
dthiessen from Vancouver writes:
There's still quite a bit of snow (hiked it over the weekend), we didn't make it to the summit because of it but others did.
Posted: June 19, 2013 02:02:35 PM PST
Jordan from Surrey from Surrey writes:
Does anyone know if there is still a large amount of snow coverage still or if it is mostly melted? If not when does it normally star/finish melting.
Posted: June 13, 2013 10:26:50 AM PST
eastvandan from Vancouver writes:
This site displays the time and distance round trip/total.
Posted: June 8, 2013 12:32:38 AM PST
Leigh from Vancouver writes:
I'm confused by this trail... it says 8hrs and 16km on this site... but on other sites it says it's only 4 hours and 8km.
which one is correct? why the two distances?
Posted: June 5, 2013 04:46:52 PM PST
Jorge from Burnaby writes:
Hi, where does the snow start? Is it around 1000 meters of altitude? Near the shoulder?
Posted: May 26, 2013 02:10:43 PM PST
Geoff from Vancouver writes:
just came down from the lions, still lots of snow up there near the peaks...the snow is soft and wet, therefore fragile and at risk of sliding, esp. when the sun is out...the path is covered with snow near the top, and the markers are all buried...not worth it for at least another couple months...
Posted: May 20, 2013 05:09:25 PM PST
Narghu from Vancouver writes:
Has anyone hiked the trail recently? Im planning on going up and camping tomorrow?
Posted: May 18, 2013 03:10:01 PM PST
Tony from Vancouver writes:
Has anyone been up the Lions recently? I am going out tomorrow and not sure if I should approach from Cypress (via HSCT) or Lions Bay. Worried about avalanche hazards mostly.
If anyone would like to join me (assuming you are fit and have proper gear) feel free to email [email protected].
Posted: January 12, 2013 04:04:24 PM PST
Sherman from north vancouver writes:
Did the trail yesterday with the sunny weather. Gets harder to stay with the trail markers closer to the top (not impossible). Read a few people talking about snowshoeing, if you are sticking to this particular trail I wouldn't recommend it. Crampons and gators would serve better higher up (specially coming down). It's amazing how well our local trails are marked. You should still take precautions if you're going up in winter.
Posted: December 9, 2012 11:07:26 PM PST
Ben from Vancouver writes:
Hey Wyatt - did you make it up the other weekend?
Was there much snow up there? Or doable in normal hiking boots?
Posted: November 6, 2012 03:27:33 PM PST
Wyatt Soutzo from North Vancouver writes:
Going to attempt a snowshoe hike/climb to the lions,
going this weekend, any takers?
Posted: October 23, 2012 07:20:28 PM PST
Leevon from North van writes:
Just wondering if anyone's been up to climb the west lion recently. Also wondering how late in the year it can be climbed.
Thanks,
Leevon
Posted: October 23, 2012 01:08:03 PM PST
Jen from Vancouver writes:
Has anyone been up the trail recently? What are the conditions like? I'm thinking of doing the hike next week if there is a clear day. Any reports would be much appreciated! :)
Posted: October 21, 2012 09:54:48 PM PST
Amazed from Vancouver writes:
Hey everyone,
I'm looking to hike the Lions but I have no car, so if there is anyone I can join, it would be great! Hopefully the weather holds up.
Contact me at [email protected] if I'm welcome to join you!
Posted: October 10, 2012 11:35:38 PM PST
james from vanvouver writes:
"Rob from Van writes:
Hey,
Mike Heller and everyone else who has done the Lions. If you stayed at the first peak long enough you get to meet the Raven, assuming the bird is a he. I did it in July when it there was still snow everywhere. Its very conditioned to being around humans and eating food from your hands."
Are u people retarded? nature...get it. that means leave no trace,pack it out and DONT FEED WILDLIFE! God, i swear canada is full of people who love to trash wild places.
Posted: October 8, 2012 12:55:13 AM PST
Andrew from Vancouver writes:
Thanks everyone for the helpful updates. I've always wanted to do the Lions and I'm planning on going up on Monday (Oct 8) since the weather has been miraculously holding.
Happy to partner up with anyone else with similar plans. Based on what I've heard, I'm thinking to be at the trailhead between 7:30 and 8am.
Drop me a line at xuxjin [at] gmail [dot] com
Cheers,
Andrew
Posted: October 7, 2012 12:37:44 AM PST
Clayton from Vancouver, BC writes:
Last year I attempted to hike The Lions but the day I chose to go turned out to be completely overcast and drizzly. I made it to Unnecessary Mountain and decided that it was unnecessary to go any further. No view at all when you hike in the clouds. I vowed though that I would come back on a clear day.
October 5, 2012 was a perfectly clear day. We arrived at the "yellow" gate (which we were surprised to discover is actually black) at 8:00 am. On the ascent, it was a bit chilly through the trees. My hands felt cold, but once we were high enough and the sun was high enough, it warmed up very nicely. We were fortunate to see the dramatic raven show at the viewpoint. I think a clear sunny day in September or October is the ideal time for this hike. No snow on the trail. No bugs. Fall colours in the trees and bushes. It was a perfect day.
Posted: October 6, 2012 08:01:44 AM PST
Andrew Couzens from Burnaby writes:
Went up the Binkert trail 09/24 and spent the night up just past the lions towards Mt Unnecessary. Trail was in great shape I recall only one tree that was a squeeze with the backpack on. We took the HSCT back down via Cypress. Quite a few really great places to set up camp isolated from the wind.
Some photos of our journey here: https://plus.google.com/photos/118320504883280263875/albums/5792576799218940049
Posted: October 2, 2012 03:50:44 PM PST
Rob from Van writes:
Hey,
Mike Heller and everyone else who has done the Lions. If you stayed at the first peak long enough you get to meet the Raven, assuming the bird is a he. I did it in July when it there was still snow everywhere. Its very conditioned to being around humans and eating food from your hands.
Posted: September 18, 2012 08:33:48 AM PST
VanGirl from Vancouver writes:
Hiked this on Sat. Sept. 15th -- trail is in great shape, we passed a single snow patch and it was small! Hardly any mud but a couple of slippery sections.
Arrived at 715am and the small parking lot was already full, but roadside stops around the corner just prior to the parking lot were still open at this time.
4 hours up including plenty of stops for photos, 4 hours down. I have decent lower body strength/endurance and don't have knee problems, but I found the downhill pretty rough after a ~1300m ascent.
If you have knee issues I'd recommend bracing, taping or really taking your time...some of the steps down are big!
Posted: September 17, 2012 10:17:39 PM PST
sanvic from Vancouver writes:
We hiked the Lions yesterday(Saturday). The trail is in good condition with lots of hikers.We arrived there at 8 AM,but even the overflow parking lot near the school was almost full. So be earlier if you plan to hike the Lions.
Posted: September 16, 2012 02:12:16 PM PST
May from North Van writes:
Lauren.. Please share your hike experience from this weekend. Julie... I am sort of in same situation as you (re:knee .. only I can't seem to find my knee brace so wonder if I could do without it.)
Anyone interested in doing it any week day coming week. (I get the week off and the weather seem to be good.)
Posted: September 15, 2012 09:00:55 AM PST
Laura from Van writes:
Looking to hike this saturday Sept 15th. Any update on conditions would be appreciated. Is there snow still up there?
Thanks!
Posted: September 13, 2012 09:39:30 PM PST
kel from North Vancouver writes:
is this trail open already? we went there on september 10, 2012 and it was close because of the forest fire.
Posted: September 13, 2012 06:22:44 PM PST
Mike Heller from Vancouver writes:
I went up with some friends August 18, 2012. Beautiful summer day, not much snow on the trail. There were a lot of people at the trail head but we didn't see many on the way up, everyone gets spread out. A bit hazy at the top but the view was spectacular!
Photos from the trip up here:
http://photokaz.com/2012/08/hiking-the-binkert-trail-to-the-lions/
Posted: August 20, 2012 01:50:09 PM PST
Reg from Delta writes:
Does anyone know how strict the NON-CAMPING rule is? Is it a rule or just a statement that it is not suitable for camping. Can you get fined or anything like that. I really want to just put up a tent to sleep, not make a camp. Any input would be helpful.
Posted: August 19, 2012 09:34:20 PM PST
Julie Burke from Delta, BC writes:
This email is especially for keen hikers with knee issues. I have a torn meniscus and some osteo mixed in. This is the fourth Lions hike over 20 years. Hiked on the 12th and yes the parking allowed is atrotious. It's advisable to be ready to go by 8:30 because of that. We hiked there and back in 6.5 hours + I'd say 80 minutes for lunch and breaks/views. It's advisable to be fit and have stong quads. I left my lunch at home and others were great to donate. The views are fantastic as well and yes there was some slushy snow up near the top so I take it slow. For my knees I wore a soft knee brace and going down is for everyone not fun. The key is to have 1 pole to bear the weight. My UBC Sports doctor says it takes away about 33% of the impact. It's so important to get a good footing and go slow. Of course, I fell a couple of times where it was muddy LOL. Today knee people my left knee is stiff and painful but not swollen. I'm planning on climbing Mt Kilimanjaro so testing the waters.
Posted: August 13, 2012 08:58:19 AM PST
Kyle from Surrey writes:
I'm attempting this tomorrow, I would like to fully summit this, but I am do not have equipment or a partner. If anyone would like to join me for tomorrow, I'd be glad to have them.
Contact me at 778 709 5427.
Posted: August 8, 2012 10:14:04 PM PST
Scott from Vancouver writes:
Hiked the Lions Monday, August 6, 2012. Eventually worth the view. Took about 7 hours round trip with plenty of breaks (good), sweat (bad), and bugs (worse). This was my first hike of the summer and I found it quite physically demanding. While not terribly technical, it's 3 hours of uphill slogging and about the same down. There is almost no moderate incline ridge hiking. I'd recommend doing some shorter hikes to get your legs conditioned first, and be sure to wear proper hiking shoes. My girlfriend did it in sneakers, but regretted the decision.
Snow is mostly gone as of August 6, though some lingered at the top. It made for several muddy scrambles, but did not seem to pose any serious danger. We did not attempt the summit of West Lion: ropes and climbing experience looked essential.
Posted: August 8, 2012 01:44:01 PM PST
Brian from White Rock writes:
First time up. Did it in 3.5 hours. There's still a bit of snow lingering about close to the top past the tree line, but it's well rutted by the passage of many hikers and perfectly innocuous. I was appalled by the fact that the designated parking will only accommodate five vehicles. I was so appalled that I felt like relieving myself in the local stream feeding the town's water supply. I found the start to be incredibly long, and excruciatingly boring. The hike doesn't really begin until you cross Harvey Creek, then things seem to ratchet up to a tortuous degree as you slog your way through the forest to the ridgeline. The Horseflies were a nuisance, and I had five accompanying me most of the way up. Thankfully, I managed to kill one of the little b$%^&ds, and after an hour-and-a-half of being buzzed to death, I was probably happier with it's death than I eventually was with the view from the top.
Fantastic hike. Well worth the many litres of sweat I left up there.
Posted: August 7, 2012 10:09:12 PM PST
Keeley from Vancouver writes:
We did The Lions hike today. There is still snow at the top but it was a warm sunny day so it was quite slushy. Still best to have hiking boots and tread carefully but it wasn't too difficult.
Posted: August 5, 2012 10:19:29 PM PST
Ches from Vancouver writes:
Snow still remains at the top as of August 2nd, in long-ish patches at points. I was fine in normal hiking boots but would have been better with poles. Overall the snow patches are already well tread so you can just dig into others' steps and be fine.
Regarding the summit, I would say it is not worth it. It looks extremely dangerous. We decided not to do it as it looked rather unsafe but we did see standard hikers doing the scramble despite what looked like the risk of fatal falls off the West Lion. We also saw some climbers using ropes and looking rather safe. Make your own decision but think it over, and remember you have to get down too.
Posted: August 2, 2012 09:51:57 PM PST
T. Martin from North Van writes:
I'm looking to do this hike this weekend and was wondering if anyone knows the conditions at the top of the West Lion.Also if I don't have any special hiking equipment can I still go all the way to the top? Looking forward to doing this one, looks like a beauty of a view from the top.
Posted: July 30, 2012 09:26:45 PM PST
BP from Vancouver writes:
Did this hike on Saturday.
Definitely bring crampons or snow shoes if you plan on traversing the snow near the top.
The ice and the incline make for dangerous walking with normal hiking boots. On the traverse, you have to dig in each step with your boots, making it extremely tedious.
The danger is that if you fall, you would have a very difficult time preventing yourself from sliding down the mountain a very, very far distance. The snow was not grippy at all.
Perhaps on a sunny day, you might get the snow soft enough to make the traverse safer.
Posted: July 22, 2012 11:17:05 PM PST
Mahsa from West Vancouver writes:
Hi All - I'm planning to do the hike for the first time this weekend. Can anybody tell me what the conditions are at this time?
Also, I am going with a group and we like to camp there at night and come back the next day. It seems like camping space is very limited up there. Does anybody know how many people would be able to camp up there?
Any other tips, advice, information (maps, websites,etc.) you might have for a first timer would be much appreciated!
Cheers.
M
Posted: July 17, 2012 05:04:45 PM PST
Tanner K from Langley writes:
I'm planning on doing this hike on Saturday (July.14th), so I'll be sure to post the current trail conditions when I get back! :)
Posted: July 12, 2012 10:24:03 PM PST
Jeff from Pemberton writes:
Went up solo on sat, July 7. Snow at approx 1250m, not far below treeline Good travel on snow, an ice axe or boots would have allowed more security and speed. Didnt have them as it was a spontaeneous afternoon trip. This meant I was equipped with only approach shoes. No snow on w lion scramble, just on summit. 5 hours car to car. pleasant.
Posted: July 10, 2012 01:49:22 PM PST
Leo from Burnaby writes:
I might be up for the hike on july 14th. We will talk again closer to that time.
Posted: July 5, 2012 11:19:49 AM PST
Shane from Deep Cove writes:
27 year old Irish guy, who has done lots of hiking before, i would love to do the Lions before i go back to Ireland in August, was wondering is there any group or person I can join to do the hike with and experience the adventure... i would like to hike it on the Sat14th of July
Posted: July 3, 2012 08:49:38 PM PST
Hoon from Richmond writes:
I did climb up the top of WEST LION on Wed. June 27.
Hiked alone. Good weather, No Winds.
The conditions of WEST LION : The snow caps reside only on the top. No snow on the access route to the top. For experience hikers, there are good holdings and clear access route. (Just follow red dots or signing tags) BUT I recommend wear proper gear such as good friction shoes (mine is FiveTen C4 or C4/S1 outsole), helmet, slings.
Summary
#1. I followed BINKET trail.
#2. Lots of snow btwn West Lion - Unnecessary Mt Ridge and the end of forest about (flank of the 300m down)
#3. In the morning time the snow pack is little slush, but in the afternoon the snow is really slush and slippery.
The Gears I wore : gaiters, trekking poles, crampons, mountaineering shoes (GTX grade)
#4. Just before climb up the WEST LION, I left my backpack and changed my gear;
Rock Climbing shoes, Helmet, 2 sling.
Mountaineering shoes does not give you enough frictions, in most cases shoes can save your life especially in the rock scrambing/climbing.
#5. When you try the top of the WEST LION, do slowly. Follow the same route you climbed up when you go down.
Posted: June 28, 2012 08:32:31 AM PST
Fidel from Burnaby writes:
if you do try it please come back and post the condition! Thanks!
Posted: June 27, 2012 09:31:24 PM PST
Lacey from Langley writes:
Hi, just wondering what the conditions are like up top, is there still lots of snow?? If anyone's been up there recently and could give me any info, that'd be great!
I'm thinking about trying it out next week :)
Posted: June 27, 2012 02:29:33 PM PST
Mauricio from Vancouver writes:
any group that I could join? I would like to try it on July, but I don't want to do it alone...too risky, at least I want someone to tell where was the last place he saw me ;). If you know about any hiking groups planning to do the lion please post it
Posted: June 25, 2012 09:42:51 PM PST
Asita from Vancouver writes:
Does anyone know the current (as of June 23rd) snowpack conditions for hiking the Lions? I'm aiming for early July but am interested in how realistic that is.
Posted: June 23, 2012 03:33:43 PM PST
Nate from Vancouver writes:
Hi everyone, Im going to give the lions a shot this Saturday. Thanks to those helpful posts I'm taking my snowshoes and hopefully going to make it pretty far up. Wish me luck!
Posted: June 12, 2012 07:24:10 PM PST
Jacob from Vancouver writes:
Doing the trail tomorrow with a buddy starting around 9AM. I wear an altimeter watch so I'll give out necessary details. I hope to make it to the ridge. If anyone else is going post up.
Posted: June 6, 2012 06:44:48 PM PST
Joe from Vancouver writes:
We hiked the binkert trail on May 27th. Snow starts at 1000 mts. Good hiking boots are enough but snow shoes would make it easier. We only made it to the view point (400 mts below the end of the binkert trail). Clouds were too low. Some hikers were able to get to the ridge. Snow at the view point must have been ~2 mts deep. It wont be gone anytime soon.
Posted: May 31, 2012 10:38:00 PM PST
Fidel from Vancouver writes:
Has anyone went up this hike yet? Whats the condition like??
Posted: May 29, 2012 04:17:22 PM PST
Gabe from Seattle writes:
Thinking of going up to lions binkert on may 13, anyone know the conditions.
Posted: May 12, 2012 06:19:44 PM PST
Tom from Vancouver writes:
hey Jacob
ya i'm thinking about going there this weekend?
how's the condition?
Is there still snow?
Thanks
Posted: May 10, 2012 09:40:01 AM PST
Jacob from Vancouver writes:
Thinking of going to check on the lions trail conditions this Thursday May 10th. I'll post conditions on what I find. If anyone else is planning on going post a comment.
Posted: May 8, 2012 07:25:26 PM PST
Rebekah Sunley from Melbourne, Australia writes:
Hey, I'm really keen to do this hike tomorrow (5th of November) but I'm travelling alone and am not confident to go on such a long hike all by myself. If anyone doesn't mind a little Australian tagging along please email me it'd be much appreciated I'd hate to miss such a gorgeous mountain tramp. Please email [email protected].
Posted: November 4, 2011 12:21:31 PM PST
Sam from Los Angeles, CA writes:
Hiked this trail today (Oct 17). This is a great hike with a fantastic payoff view. It is difficult mostly because it is a fairly rough trail compared to most of the other hikes I have done in BC. Lots of loose rock, roots etc. It requires a lot of concentration. It is more difficult in this regard than being physically challenging. There is ice starting to form up top, in a week or two it will be pretty treacherous. The gate is black now, not yellow. Here is a panorama I took from the top: http://tinyurl.com/6cktqpp
Posted: October 17, 2011 08:22:24 PM PST
Sandra from Vancouver writes:
Thinking about hiking Saturday or Sunday - Any update on trail conditions? Thanks!
Posted: October 14, 2011 02:53:08 PM PST
Patrick from Vancouver, BC writes:
hey,
I want to hike this trail on the 18th of September. Its the only day I've left in BC to hike this one, but my "co-hikers" can't hike that day.
anybody wanna join me?
email me: [email protected]
cheers
Patrick
Posted: September 11, 2011 09:33:32 PM PST
Igor from Vancouver writes:
We climbed Lions today. Still some snow before the end of the trail, especially two short segments (about 10 and 20 meters long), quite slippery (hard snow mixed with mud). One climbing part (just next to the snow spot) very dirty and slippery (basically pure wet mud), as the ice was melting. We stayed on the ridge, did not climbed the West Lion peak, as it seemed to us quite risky. The view of Howe sound excellent, however, quite weak for Vancouver part (a lot of smog due to the high temperatures during last week). Also, Mt.Baker could be seen, but you have to know where to look...
Posted: September 10, 2011 10:44:07 PM PST
adam from vancouver writes:
Climbing tomorrow. Can't wait.. will let you know how we get on.
Posted: September 10, 2011 07:23:25 PM PST
Mark from Port Moody writes:
Hiked the Lions with some friend on August 27th. Search and Rescue was marking the trail as we began our hike. As we emerged from the trees, we traversed snow covered slopes on the way up to the ridge beside the West Lion. There were quite a few groups on the final scramble up the West Lion. Coming back down the trail, we noticed the search and rescue team had built several rock cairns and flagged trees with orange tape. The trail was well marked by the end of the day.
Posted: August 29, 2011 06:46:43 PM PST
Cyrus from Vancouver writes:
Plan to climb Lions West on Sunday Aug 28 th. It is the first time and looking for a map and info..Thanks in advance for any advise/help.
Posted: August 26, 2011 04:55:12 PM PST
RacingforLives.com from Vancouver, BC writes:
Hiked the Lions August 21st. As other people have mentioned there are snowy sections. And as a result trail markers are not easily visible. For first-timers: the trail does not go straight up from the first snowy section; it wraps around to the right (west).
Play it safe by staying low and crossing below the first snowy section; staying on the rocks. If you're facing straight up hill you want to move at 45 degree angle or towards 2pm on a round clock.
As you move further west you'll see a straight section that takes you up to the junction between Unnecessary Mtn (over to the right / west) and the Lions (over to the left / east). This is the section that people are having trouble with. You should also start to see trail markers on the left side of snow pack.
Yaktrax and poles are strongly advised. I doubt that the snow pack will melt this season so if you're headed up to the viewpoint make sure you're prepared.
Posted: August 21, 2011 02:23:12 PM PST
Bruce from Pender Harbour writes:
Just did this hike today. There is a stretch of about 200 meters that is still quite snowy. A nice fellow brought a shovel and cut steps into the snow for us. Otherwise, I would recommend crampons for that small section.
Posted: August 20, 2011 09:59:11 PM PST
Greg from Vancouver writes:
Does anyone have a trail report as of August 20/11?
Posted: August 20, 2011 08:33:20 PM PST
JDW from Vancouver writes:
We did this hike on August 3. We almost made it to the top but decided to turn back due to all the snow. After about 30mins on the snow in tennis shoes and shorts we heard rushing water below us and decided it was too risky to continue. The views are amazing though and we'll definitely be back in late August or early September to finish it off and make it all the way to Cypress as we had originally planned.
Posted: August 9, 2011 09:06:16 PM PST
Justin from South Surrey writes:
Cartier from Nowhere. I thought that was you I heard howling with delight after we bumped into you on the trail. I was one of the 3 you are referring to and the one who said you shouldn't ski down the back-side of the hill. You crazy bastard, you did it anyway ;-) Good on ya!!
Posted: August 7, 2011 11:59:07 PM PST
Cartier from anywhere writes:
Skied down the back side of the Lions today.
If it takes you 4 hours to get to the top, the last hour is when you hit snow, becomes steep enough you don't want to lose your footing. Snow pack ends and you can finish the trail to the top - 3 people on the way down said it's about a half hour from the top of the snow pack - after the black rope take the goat trail around until you are at the top.
Posted: August 6, 2011 09:26:26 PM PST
Jason from Vancouver writes:
Day-hiked on July 30 to West Lion from Cypress ski area. Still a lot of snow from St. Marks over Unnecessary Mountain to the Lions. Route is passable, but challenging; we lost the trail a few times, but eventually found it. Trekking poles are a must.
Posted: July 31, 2011 08:06:13 AM PST
Todd from Vancouver writes:
Hiked it today, no view to be had but it was definitely an adventure I won't be forgetting anytime soon. Trail flagging becomes poor right when the snow starts - bring a roll of flagger with you if you feel like helping out.
Good boots are a must in the snow, warn your party! A light jacket and some gloves would be nice too.
Incredible hike! It will test you on a number of levels: fitness, will and skill. I highly recommend it! For ideal conditions I would suggest waiting until mid August.. the snow pack is ridiculous this year.
Posted: July 26, 2011 11:22:19 PM PST
Janie from Vancouver writes:
Hiked it today, went all the way to the lion, but didn't have any rock climbing equipment and decided to go back.
Lots of snow, so take nice boots, ski poles would help as well.
We had only tennis shoes on and that was not fun, we got them all wet and were sliding a lot took us about 10 hours, including lots of stops for pictures, and quite a bit of time on the top
Posted: July 23, 2011 10:24:24 PM PST
Durand from New Zealand writes:
Hiked the trail today. Started at 8am from an empty car park and reached the snowline at about 1100m. Continued up through the snow for about another 100m vertical until the trail became to difficult to climb. The summit is still unattainable unless you would like to walk through 3-6ft of unstable snow for an hour or so. The track is however in great condition until the snow line and there are still great views to be had. I would recommend walking this trail towards the end of july to avoid the snow.
Posted: June 28, 2011 04:31:04 PM PST
Colin Leech-Porter from Vancouver writes:
I have previously climbed the trail from Lion's Bay. Last week I was on the top of Cypress. Is it possible particularly now given soft snow conditions to ski around on the east side of the Cypress downhill area and approach the Lion's from the south side?
Posted: June 13, 2011 01:55:30 PM PST
Bobby from Vancouver writes:
Replying to Ian: the peak is not really technical--it's some scrambling and you don't need gear. Nonetheless it is risky since a slip or a wrong step and you will not survive it. The first half, getting across the lower part of the peak to the other side where you start the actual upwards climb, can be pretty sketchy. In the second half, there's quite a bit of erosion and loose material so you need to test your hand and foot holds carefully. I've seen a 14 year old kid go to the top, but at the same time don't underestimate it.
Posted: June 12, 2011 02:00:32 AM PST
Ian from Vancouver writes:
I am wanting to know about the last part of the Lion's trail where you climb up to the top of the Lion peak itself. Can someone tell me how technical this last bit is? how much exposure there is? is there any protection, e.g. cables, etc. Just want to know what I am getting myself into if I decide to make the final climb to the top.
Thank you,
Ian
Posted: June 8, 2011 12:40:03 PM PST
Mauricio from Vancouver writes:
I had wanted to do The Lions trail for some time and decided that today was the day. Started at the trailhead at 7:11 am and topped out at 9:50 am. The first hour is spent on an old forest service road, the warm up. Next you cross Harvey creek on a bridge, and the real ascent begins. About an hour later you top out on the southwest part of the Harvey watershed, the bouldering begins and the views become great to spectacular until you reach the top, twenty to thirty minutes later. About half a dozen people on the trail, and all excited to be going up. Exited the trailhead at 12:31 pm for an all in trip of 5 hours and 20 minutes.
Posted: September 15, 2010 08:19:04 PM PST
M from N Van writes:
Did the hike yesterday, Aug 28. The views are unreal.
We got to Lions Bay at 9:30, there was no parking left so we had to park down by the school and walk up. We were pushing an aggressive pace, and our total time up was 3 1/2 hours without summiting. Summiting looks a bit crazy and I don't like heights. Time down was 2 3/4. Bugs were very minimal. No horse flies, just a few mosquitoes. There was a couple patches of snow, but none that covered the trail. Had 3L of water and still had a bit left at the end. I think the temperature high yesterday in Vancouver was about 18c with sun, and the hike was fine with shorts and a t-shirt. I did put on the hoodie I brought when we stopped for lunch but an extra longsleeve t would've been fine. The trail is fairly well marked and we didn't need to pull out the map. Just read the directions from this site. Coming down was the hardest part (especially on the knees).
ps- Safeway at the Caulfield exit in West Van has great sandwiches, opens at 7am.
Hope this helps. Have a nice hike!
Posted: August 29, 2010 10:31:41 AM PST
WestCoastTrecker from Vancouver writes:
My Wife and I just hiked this trail yesterday 8/21/2010 .. we are intermediate hikers and have hiked about 1 dozen trails this summer to prepare us for this long and advanced hike. Here's a realistic breakdown for fellow hikers in the same range.
Arive at the gate EARLY ... we got there at 7:15 AM and there were only a few parking spots left (of about 10) Otherwise you will have to park somewhere down the road.
Ariving early also allows you to do most of your uphill hike in much cooler weather, even then a T-Shirt and Shorts was still comfortable as you will work up a quick sweat. Bring enough water, we went through 3 500ML bottles of water each, which lasted the entire trip. Bring 4 500ML each just in case it gets hotter, as the weather can definitely make a difference in your needs on water.
The first half of the hike is relatively easy. The second half has much steaper inclines though the wooded forest, over-and-up a rocky boulder field, culminating with a steap scramble up a rocky mountainside .. all of which is very doable for hikers with intermediate experience. You do have to keep a lookout for the colored ribbon markers along the way as well as painted markers on the rocks towards the top. The trails were clear of snow at this time of year, except for a couple of very small patches. Overall the hike up was not too bad. We stopped and took many pictures along the way and it took us 4 1/2 hours to reach the top!
The views at the top are stunning, especially if you are lucky like we were in getting a somewhat clear day with passing clouds. There's lots of room at the top to relax. We spent an hour and had lunch, took lots of pictures and enjoyed a nice light cool breeze amongst the clouds.
The hike down for most hikers seemed quicker, however, we found this part of the hike to be the most enduring, particularly on our upper quads, knees, and feet. (even with hiking poles and hiking shoes). We took our sweet time and got down in 4 hours, completing our entire trek in 8 1/2 hours.
All in all, a great hike, with challenging sections towards the end and some of the most amazing panoramic views as you will see in the greater Vancouver area. We're a bit sore the next day, but seem to be recovering quite quickly ... hope you enjoy your hike if you decide to take on "The Lions" ... Happy Trails!!!
Posted: August 22, 2010 01:15:27 PM PST
DG from Vancouver / Toronto writes:
Hiked the Lions solo last Saturday (August 14th). Started late, so had to park my car down by the school. I'm a pretty fast hiker (2hrs 15 mins to the top; quite a bit less than that to get down), but it is a bit relentless in the tree-covered area before you come to the first major viewpoint. I'd say it's steeper from there to the peak, but you've got views to distract you, whereas in the trees the trail is pretty rough and boring.
Definitely bring lots of water. I only brought two 600 ml bottles, which wasn't nearly enough. I ran out by the time I got to the top, and felt seriously dehydrated at the bottom. That last km from the gate to my car was the worst bit, believe it or not.
All in all a great day, and on balance I prefer this route to the trail from Cypress.
Posted: August 16, 2010 08:14:30 PM PST
m from Vancouver writes:
Did this today (Fri. July 31,2010) Made it to the top as there was definitely way less snow. A few patches here and there but completely do-able.
Go early. We got to Lions Bay around 8:30am and there were no spaces left at the lot so had to park further down. I brought 2L and still ran out of water so be sure to bring enough for yourself.
The bugs weren't too bad but I recommend bringing spray. It's rocky and easy to lose the trail at the top. I found myself scaling the side of a cliff before realizing I'd gone the wrong way. This hike is intense but definitely worth the view from top.
Posted: July 31, 2010 10:40:51 PM PST
Lee from Vancouver writes:
Just went up the trail today (July 31 2010). Absolutely amazing. Fairly easy climb, but the last part just before the peak is a bit tricky. If you're afraid of heights, I wouldn't recommend climbing it. One slip and you're toast.
Still a bit of snow up there, but nothing a pair of running shoes couldn't handle.
Get there early, before 8am. This hike is an all dayer. We didn't get back to the car until 6pm.
Posted: July 31, 2010 08:04:05 PM PST
VancouverTrails from Vancouver writes:
The starting point on Cypress is from the downhill ski area and is the same route that goes to St. Mark's Summit.
http://www.vancouvertrails.com/trails/st-mark's-summit/
The trail continues past St. Mark's Summit and goes over Unnecessary Mountian before heading up to the Lions. I've done this route and although it seemed like it might be easier driving up to Cypress and starting at that elevation, I actually found it more difficult because of having to go up and down 2 mountains. But it's a beautiful route with several views of Howe Sound, just make sure to pack lots of water.
Posted: July 30, 2010 12:25:42 AM PST
m from Vancouver writes:
The map on this site doesn't show it but does anyone know how to get to the starting point from Cypress?
Thanks!
Posted: July 30, 2010 12:16:29 AM PST
Lisa from Originally? or now? writes:
Walked up today, July 26, 2010. Keep going!!! Yes, the trail past the creek up through the trees is quite difficult but once you reach the open views, SPECTACULAR. If you make it that far KEEP GOING!!! The higher you go the easier it gets and the more spectacular the views. Definitely a little bit of scrambling but so worth it!!! I met a guy with two kids going to the top of the west Lion. I was by myself and so didn't attempt the Lion itself. Any advice from someone who has been up them? The guy I met on the trail said if you drop down into the gully and go up the back side it isn't too bad?!? So lovely, so clear, Mount Baker, Garibaldi, Seymour... Ocean, islands, Fantastic!
Posted: July 26, 2010 07:45:24 PM PST
Sasha Liang from Vancouver writes:
We are going up Sunday...will advise on the status of the trail.
Posted: July 23, 2010 06:50:22 PM PST
Raj from Surrey writes:
I hiked first time last week at grouse grind. I want to know is it really harder than grouse grind?
Posted: July 18, 2010 11:03:10 AM PST
Steve from Eugene writes:
hiked to the saddle between the lions today (July 14), but no higher. Still a lot of snow after you leave the boulder-and-downed-tree-nearly-vertical-maze. There are a few markers visible above the snow, but most remain hidden. Best to leave early. I started at 8:30 am, and the snow was OK on the way up, but coming down around noon I broke through a few times.
Posted: July 14, 2010 06:27:36 PM PST
Oliver from Delta writes:
Yes, I know a few people who have 'camped' up at the top on flat spots
Posted: July 14, 2010 11:23:40 AM PST
mike from north van writes:
The description says there is no camping, but do do people rough it on flat spots? Never done the lions and I'm looking for a multi day hike...
Posted: July 13, 2010 04:17:18 PM PST
Dave from N. Delta writes:
Hiked for the first time on July 5th. The snow at the base of the summit is still there, and quite deep at the higher elevations. I started the hike a 7am so the snow was very hard and crusty, made easy going. Made it to Thomas Peak but did not continue onto the very tops of either of the Lion columns, the snow was getting quite wet and slushy from the mid-morning sun. But with no special gear made it just fine, I would just recommend getting up and down off of the snow before it gets too warm and you punch right through it. The trail makers are under the snow, but at that point the peaks are very close and always in line of sight. Good hiking!
Posted: July 5, 2010 04:32:50 PM PST
Nicole from Vancouver writes:
Could you make it to the base of the lions with all the snow? What Kind of gear did you need?
Posted: June 30, 2010 03:18:33 PM PST
David from Vancouver writes:
did the trail last weekend (19th). lots of snow on top and most of the markers are under the snow but was still worth it.
Basically everything that M said in he/she comment was everything i experienced.
Posted: June 27, 2010 03:19:29 PM PST
Nicole from Vancouver writes:
Anyone hike this recently. Hoping to head up July 1 and curious about the conditons.
Posted: June 26, 2010 02:24:30 PM PST
m from Vancouver writes:
I just did this for the first time yesterday 07/17/10. I personally thought the first hour of the inclined logging road was the most intense part of the entire trail. It was foggy from the get go and so we didn't see any of the views. It started to rain so trail was pretty wet.
There's still ALOT of snow up top. Tried to go as far as we could on the snow but the fog got thicker and we lost the markers as we got higher. The markers are sometimes not easy to spot and there are a few huge logs that you have go around, over, or under. I have no idea how high we got, couldn't tell because of the fog. Based on the amount of snow I imagine we were pretty high up and based on time we probably had another 40 mins or so to go.
The descent wasn't as quick as we expected. I'm sure it would've been alot quicker in better conditions. Despite not making it to the summit, this trail was intense but the best and most rewarding one I've been on so far. I definitely plan to go again when the snow clears and I recommend this trail to any avid hiker.
Posted: June 19, 2010 01:14:17 AM PST
Hikeroo from Vancouver writes:
Did anyone do this trail today or yesterday? I've never done this hike before so I'm just wondering what the conditions are like right now.
The site says the trail is good July-Aug. Does anyone know if there've been alot of people going at this time?
Posted: June 17, 2010 12:19:49 AM PST
David Manders from Vancouver writes:
I was up there today, and wow, there is still a lot of snow. I'd wager 3ft at least through out the upper bowl and at the summit. Given the softness and the amount of water and the direct sun, I have a feeling it's going to go pretty quick now. But 3ft of snow is a lot to melt.
Posted: June 13, 2010 09:05:40 PM PST
vittorio s from vancouver writes:
I hiked the trail yesterday October the 19th 2009. Beautiful sunny day. Beautiful, challenging hike after Harvey Creek. The problems started 20 minutes after I reached the first ridge because it is difficult to follow the coloured tape marker In a spot, kind of rockslide, I didn't know if I were to go straight or left..and so stopped for lunch, not far from the second ridge I suppose.Despite this it is a very beautiful hike after passed Harvey Creek bridge
Posted: October 20, 2009 09:17:23 PM PST
lb from New west writes:
Hi...55 year old woman with moderate fitness (do 1 1/2 hr on seymour every sunday ...trail was challenging for me and was happy to get above the tree line , did not go the last 45 min to the top...great view but pretty tough on the knees going down. felt like a great accomplishment for me and sure most younger adults could handle it no problem. Worth the scramble. Next year_the top!
Posted: October 4, 2009 11:31:40 PM PST
Ray Stothers from Nelson writes:
The Lions is one of the most memorable hike I have ever done. A real breathful! I am thinking of a trip back with friends and they wonder if there might be any caves in the area. Any ideas?
Posted: September 26, 2009 10:36:36 AM PST
T from Delta writes:
This is where that French guy slipped on the last 200 feet on the way up and fell 45 meters down the rocky hill... smashing his leg to bits. Other people have died at the very end of their day. Think twice about your family before sumitting the West Lion.
Posted: August 11, 2009 02:59:44 PM PST
MEPISTO from Vancouver writes:
Did the Lions this week-end and the hardest part of it was to find a parking for the car ;op
Seriously, the parking where the trail starts is split in 2, visitors and residents (around 15 spots all together); and I am sure that some residents park their cars in the visitors' spots so they will not get annoyed by too many hikers....lame....
Except that, the trail is correctly marked (make sure to check out the signs on the trees for direction) and fun, especially if you are planning to climb up to the summit. The ropes are sturdy, but honestly the view is not worth the risk.
Just for you to situate yourself, I am an average hiker and it took me 5h30mn to complete the trail (did the summit too) + an extra 3km (parked the car very far).
3L of water should be fine unless you are an heavy drinker (used almost 2L on a very shiny hot day).
In short make sure to be there early enough (before 8AM) and do not forget your water as there is no place to refill or drink..... Enjoy!
Posted: August 4, 2009 02:11:29 PM PST
B from UBC writes:
I went up today and it was amazing. The view is incredible and the weather was great. The only problem was the bugs so don't forget to bring good bug spray. We saw a search and rescue heli and passed some s&r hikers that were looking for someone who had lost the trail and hurt himself.
We didn't arrive at the parking lot until about 2pm and there was only one spot left so we got lucky. That extra 1km to the school lot would really suck after this hike. Also make sure to bring plenty of water.
Posted: July 16, 2009 02:46:13 AM PST
Ben from North Vancouver writes:
Just did it today and it was great. Much easier than we heard and would reccomend it to someone looking for a good day of hiking. Not much snow at the top and what was there was hikeable. Dont do it with dogs because it is too steep for them. Only downside is the long boring logging road, also pack light for the trip and pack a rewarding lunch for the top. Overall sweet hike!
Posted: July 14, 2009 07:08:54 PM PST
Mike from Burnaby writes:
I've done both the route from Cypress along the Howe Sound Crest trail and the route from Lions Bay and I've found that the route from Cypress is much longer and more difficult. The trail from Cypress goes up and over St. Mark's Summit and Unnecessary Mountain before getting to the Lions and then returning that same route made for a really long day. The trail from Lions Bay is steep but it's down hill on the way back.
Of course, there are some great views along the route from Cypress of Howe Sound and the islands off in the distance, which makes this route very appealing.
Posted: July 14, 2009 09:23:59 AM PST
Donna from Vancouver writes:
What's the difference between going from Lions Bay and doing it from Cypress-Unneccesary Mountain way? Which do you recommend?
Posted: July 13, 2009 06:21:45 PM PST
C from Vancouver writes:
Just wondering how difficult is the hike, is it for the strong willed cardio frenzy person or can an average joe handle it?
Posted: July 12, 2009 12:13:56 AM PST
Joel and Sara from Vancouver writes:
We hiked the lions on Saturday July 11th starting at 8AM. The trail was nice to start off at a gradual incline for about 45 minutes until you hit the bridge across Harvey creek. Shortly after Harvey Creek the ascent becomes a little more difficult with a steep grade and a path that often contacins loose rock and fallen tree trunks.
After about 2 hours we hit the intial viewpoint and climbed up to the ridge between the final lions viewpoint and Unnecessary Mtn. The view from the top was phenomenal with the peak of Black Tusk to the north and Howe Sound and Vancouver Island off to our West and South. It was surprising how many people were trying to take the hike on in the late morning and even the early afternoon. If we may impart some advice, be sure to show up early as no one would want to tack on the entra KM before and after the hike by parking at the school lot.
Posted: July 11, 2009 04:25:01 PM PST
H from Vancouver writes:
Did the hike on June 28, there's still a fair amount of snow near the top, making it a little slick for the last 30 minutes.
Posted: June 29, 2009 12:54:43 PM PST
Peter from Vancouver writes:
Is there any campsites on the this hike?
I remeber a clearing on a ridge just as you leave the tree-line. Has anyone ever camped there?
Posted: June 23, 2009 08:25:00 AM PST
Ivan G from Richmond writes:
Thea or anyone else who did it this year already
How much snow is there right now? I want to do the hike but I am concerned that there will be too much snow still.
Posted: June 16, 2009 02:42:54 PM PST
Thea from Burnaby writes:
I did the Lions hike starting from Lions Bay and ending it on Cypress. It was an 11.5 hr hike including the 4 climbs of Unnecessary Mountain - it was awesome. Best hike ever!
Posted: June 3, 2009 10:28:38 PM PST
Clay Gomez from West Van writes:
It's been a few years since I hiked up to the Lions so decided to try it today. The trail was very difficult, especially after crossing Harvey Creek, about 15 minutes later is a large section of trees that have fallen down. The trail is difficult to follow and you have to climb up and over many trees and through the mud which is very tiring. Then the last section is open with no trees and you go up the rocks but it was so cloudy that I couldn't see anything around me.
I followed the instructions on the site to go early because of parking and it was good that I did because there were not many spots. However, I think the sun might have come out and maybe there was a view a couple of hours after I went back down.
Posted: August 30, 2008 05:38:52 PM PST
Alice Crawford from currently - Vancouver writes:
just hiked the trail on Saturday Aug 9th, 2008 - quite wet - clear on the north side - socked in completely on the south side of the ridge - small section of the trail has been obstructed by a debris slide (trees and rock) on the section between Harvey creek and the first part of the accent to the ridge before the first plateau (viewpoint to Harvey Mtn.) Trail markers become difficult to find thru this section. Started at 7:45am arrived at peak approx 2pm - back to parkinglot at 7pm - stopped frequently.
Trail is not too difficult (basically lots of uphill walking, some climbing over fallen trees and such) with the exception of the last part up the rocky peak - that I would say is not difficult if you don't freak yourself out - and definitely DO NOT LET GO - there are no second chances. You slip and that would be it for you. Lastly I would say that I IMAGINE the view to be phenomenal - except we were so socked in by clouds that the East Lion was not even visible, much less the rest of the "spectacular" view :( oh well, guess I have an excuse to do the hike again until I get that picture! Super sore thighs today - but worth every ugh ugh ugh! - highly recommend it to anyone who has the will.....do it!
Posted: August 11, 2008 11:24:29 AM PST
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Mallory from Vancouver writes:
Did this hike today, July 16,2024
The bugs are heavy - don’t forget bug spray!
The trail gets hard to follow around some downed trees in a couple of areas. There are a few areas of snow still but nothing you can’t walk over. All in all, a great, challenging hike. The views are insane! The long way down is not kind on the knees. Took us 3.5 hours to get to the top and about 3 to get back down.
Posted: July 16, 2024 07:47:13 PM PST